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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 7, 2015 16:19:40 GMT -8
Hi, when I first discovered Insectnet the most interesting thing to me was looking at collections of other people, as I didn't have any real collection back then. I must have watched the video by Clark and Bill probably 10 times in a row when I discovered it when they were curating Pierids. Now I have a collection on my own and can share with other users, I hope some will enjoy. Since 3 years (yes, not that long), I am completely focusing on Lycaenidae. I collect them worldwide and there is about 5200 species. I used to have a big moth collection, and various butterflies, even Microlepidoptera, but keeping this collection became incompatible with my current life and I had to step down. I sold everything (several thousand specimen) for good earlier this year, EXCEPT for the Lycaenidae. This week, I finally received a cabinet by Paradox Company from Krakow, Poland. Since a few years I had dreamed of a proper cabinet, but I had to stick with as many used drawers as possible when having the moths, in the end I had around 120 of them, now I am back to 20. Each drawer contains one or several subfamilies of Lycaenidae, The upper 10 mostly tropical things and the bottom 10 Holarctic species. Yes I will not be able to house every species in this, but for the next 2 years I hope it will be enough. Currently I am curating the contents of my collection (after some unavoidable neglecting the last 2 years), if people enjoy the thread I might give some updates here on the process.
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 7, 2015 16:34:27 GMT -8
One of the biggest subfamilies in Lycaenidae are the real blues, Polyommatinae. Obviously it is impossible to cram these into one drawer, currently Polyommatinae takes up 7 drawers of my cabinet, only Theclinae needs also as much space (also due to their larger size). They are organised as follows: Lysandra, Agrodiaetus, Plebejus etc., Polyommatus etc., Glaucopsyche etc., Jamides etc., and a junk drawer for any tropical Polyommatinae. This junk drawer obviously has a big burden upon its shoulders as this subfamily is very diverse in Africa and Asia, and nearly absent from South America. Here is the beginning of the process, a huge mess, around 190 specimen: I then spend 18 hours retyping my data labels into a proper file format, and identifying every single specimen in the drawer! I ended up with 51 different species and subspecies. I want to tell about a few of the highlights: * Leptotes pirithous and Lampides boeticus from nearly all of their range. L. p.: DRC, La Réunion, Greece, Italy, Spain. L. b.: DRC, La Réunion, Italy, Greece, India, and Indonesia. * There was a block of Prosotas, I had caught all of them in Java. I can still remember how this swarm of little butterflies was swarming around pieces of bark, like little flies. I was swinging my net through the swarm and packed the contents. Now, after 5 years I determined them, and I actually found 3 different species! Prosotas dubiosa subardates (Piepers & Snellen, 1918), Prosotas nora superdates (Fruhstorfer, 1916), Ionolyce helicon javanica Toxopeus, 1929. * When determining things I used online resources, and came across pics taken by our user cabintom, thanks for all the work! The pics were a help! * I seem to have the sister species of the Miami blue (Cyclargus thomasi) from Jamaica, Cyclargus shuturn K. Johnson & Bálint, 1995 * When looking at this drawer you will have seen 1% of all Lycaenidae worldwide.Unfortunately there was no space left for Anthene, I will move these to some other drawer.
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 7, 2015 16:35:51 GMT -8
And here is the full list of drawer #10:
Acytolepis puspa (Horsfield, 1828) Anthene crawshayi (Butler, 1899) Anthene lunulata (Trimen, 1894) Anthene seltuttus seltuttus (Röber, 1886) Azanus isis (Drury, 1773) Azanus mirza (Plütz, 1880) Azanus natalensis (Trimen & Bowker, 1887) Brephidium exilis (Boisduval, 1852) Brephidium pseudofea pseudofea (Morrison, 1873) Cacyreus marshalli Butler, 1898 Caleta roxus (Godart 1823) Castalius rosimon (Fabricius, 1775) Cupido argiades (Pallas, 1771) Cupido comyntas (Godart, 1824) Cupido lacturnus (Godart, [1824]) Cupido minimus (Fuesslin, 1775) Cyclargus shuturn K. Johnson & Bálint, 1995 Discolampa ethion (Westwood, 1851) Claude Sinner Euchrysops malathana (Boisduval, 1833) Euchrysops osiris (Hopffer, 1855) Hemiargus ceraunus antibubastus Hübner, [1818] Hemiargus ceraunus gyas (Edwards, 1871) Hypolycaena philippus (Fabricius, 1793) Ionolyce helicon javanica Toxopeus, 1929 Lampides boeticus (Linnaeus, 1767) Leptotes marina (Reakirt, 1868) Leptotes pirithous (Linnaeus, 1767) Leptotes plinius (Fabricius, 1793) Luthrodes buruana (Holland, 1900) Lycaenopsis haraldus annamitica Eliot & Kawazoe, 1983 Neophitecops umbretta Grose-Smith, 1895 Oboronia punctatus (Dewitz, 1879) Oreolyce quadriplaga (Snellen 1892) Phlyaria cyara stactalla Karsch, 1895 Pithecops dionisius (Boisduval, 1832) Prosotas dubiosa subardates (Piepers & Snellen, 1918) Prosotas nora superdates (Fruhstorfer, 1916) Pseudozizeeria maha (Kollar 1848) Tarucus rosacea (Austaut, 1885) Tarucus ungemachi Stempffer, 1942 Triclema hades (Bethune-Baker, 1910) Tuxentius carana carana (Hewitson, 1876) Udara akasa akasa (Horsfield 1828) Udara rona catius (Fruhstorfer 1910) Upolampes evena (Hewitson, 1876) Uranothauma falkensteini (Dewitz, 1879) Uranothauma heritsia (Hewitson, 1876) Zizeeria knysna (Trimen 1862) Zizina labradus (Godart, [1824]) Zizula hylax (Fabricius, 1775)
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 7, 2015 16:44:40 GMT -8
If anybody has any interest, or request, feel free to ask
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 3:06:02 GMT -8
Obviously a lot of hard work has went into your project Claude, wishing you the best of luck in your continuing efforts. There are some great questions being posed by our friends on the ICF which can be seen here: collector-secret.proboards.com/thread/769/lycaenidae-collection You obviously have a lot of patience to prepare these specimens, nice job!
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Post by mothman27 on Dec 8, 2015 6:42:41 GMT -8
I have heard talk of the old forum but I thought it was gone now. What is the difference. The old forum still looks active. Tim
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 8, 2015 7:04:48 GMT -8
Tim,
The ICF (which I think you are referring to) is a new forum, not "the old forum". Insectnet forum used to be hosted on a different site, but Clark had to upgrade the ancient software and so moved to Proboards in 2011. For some time the old Insectnet forum was still available as an archive, but I think that this is no longer available, which is really sad as there was so much information there it was a great resource.
Adam.
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 8, 2015 11:26:55 GMT -8
Hi cacicus, yes I also created the other thread after this one to see how they will develop. A lot of interesting questions I was glad to answer.
My setting skills also continuously increased, I have a few specimen from 2009, actually back then I destroyed many of them and put some larger series aside until I could develop better setting skills. Now I would say that I am very good at it and mostly happy with the result.
@tim, there was this forum here with older forum software. I cannot remember when that one started, I think 2000? Clark? I'm around since October 2008. In 2011 the software discontinued and no further updates were produced, then Clark switched to Proboards. In 2013 the old server finally crashed. The other forum, the ICF started sometimes earlier this year.
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Post by mothman27 on Dec 8, 2015 11:30:22 GMT -8
Now I understand. Thanks, Tim
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Post by jshuey on Dec 8, 2015 14:40:10 GMT -8
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 9, 2015 0:26:31 GMT -8
Now the name makes sense, didn't know where this "shu" came from as it is a rare letter combination About the validity, I really don't know, I have nothing to compare with yet. Anybody willing to send me some Miami blues? Just kidding. It could be that it is not valid as Bálint is on a splitting rampage since a few years.
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Post by leptraps on Dec 9, 2015 5:32:55 GMT -8
After reading John Shuey's comments on the Hemiargus/Cyclargus ammon, I will add my two cents into the discussion. Having collected and reared all of the Hemiargus/Cyclargus that occurred in South Florida and the Florida Keys, I believe there are only two species. Both have seasonal (wet/dry) variations. Hemiargus thomasi bethunebaker and Hemiargus ammon. Both of the species were common at one time in the Keys. I only encounter Hemiargus ammon on the mainland once in Dade County, Florida. When the host plant, Cardiospermum halicacabum, for Hemiargus thomasi Bethunebakeri was eradicated as an exotic invasive in the mid-1990, it all but disappeared. About the same time, Hemiargus ammon was found on Pig Pine Key. Shortly there after Hemiargus thomasi bethunebakeri was found on Bahia Honda Key. The Miami Blue became endanger (??) I managed to obtain a female and reared it on smaller Cariospermum that I found at the IFAS Station in Dade County, Redlands, Florida. I suggested someone do the DNA and the uproar that followed, I back out and did not get involved. Shortly there after I moved to Kentucky. During the Lep. Soc. annual meeting at Perdue University in West Lafayette, IN I was asked by someone (I will not mention any names here) if I ever found or collected any Hemiargus in the Florida Keys. The answer of course was yes. In October they got to see my specimens. They also wanted to keep them, that wasn't happening. Yes there are two species (or were) in the Florida Keys. Photographs of my specimens below. End of my comments. One last note: The last location for the "Miami Blue" was trampled buy some fine folks wanting to see and take photographs of the Miami Blue. A year or so later I was told that the site was sprayed with a defoliant to kill the weeds and the supposedly host plant of the Miami Blue. Whether that is true or not I do not know. I do not know the current status of either species in Florida Keys or elsewhere. Hemiargus thomasi bethunebakeri Hemiargus ammon
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Post by jshuey on Dec 9, 2015 6:47:25 GMT -8
The last location for the "Miami Blue" was trampled buy some fine folks wanting to see and take photographs of the Miami Blue. A year or so later I was told that the site was sprayed with a defoliant to kill the weeds and the supposedly host plant of the Miami Blue. Whether that is true or not I do not know. I do not know the current status of either species in Florida Keys or elsewhere. A couple things here - I saw the supposed last site for Miami Blue on Bahia Honda Key a few years back (well after the population went extinct). There is abundant host plant and I don't see how it could have been "trampled" given the steepness of the embankment it is on. The reality is that any factor could have lead to the extinction of such a small population - the host plants cover about half an acre of highly disturbed bridge embankment. That's the problem with small, isolated populations - they are very prone to extinction. The butterfly is still present on two of the several small islands scattered about 10 miles west of Key West, and is being monitored closely to understand what impacts population levels. These islands are quite dry, and rain cycles have a huge impact on populations (actually on the host plant and then transferred to the butterfly). The butterfly fluctuates from locally common to seeming absent in response to precipitation cycles. People are pondering what to do to salvage the bug. John
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