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Post by leptraps on Feb 20, 2018 5:32:12 GMT -8
How long ago did Dave Bouton pass away.
I remember meeting him many moons ago at a Lep Soc meeting in AZ??
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Post by jhyatt on Feb 20, 2018 6:20:07 GMT -8
Leroy,
I think Dave died about a year ago... although it may have been almost two by now. Time is roaring past at an alarming rate these days.
Regards,
jh
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 5, 2018 12:36:16 GMT -8
I call this one "Stuff that Looks Like Helicons" All Napo, Ecuador 1998  |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 13, 2018 8:55:32 GMT -8
Some glaucus-type butterflies. I had to pull this drawer to investigate some research, and thought there may be interest in some specimens. I hope there is sufficient detail. Note the following specimens: 1. bottom row, second from left: red streaks along veins on HW. 2. bottom row, far right: seems to be a common (or, relatively common) freak 3. top row, far right: this is the one that caught my eye- there is no blue on the HW. See normal specimen to immediate left.  |
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Post by crazypapilio on Mar 13, 2018 11:54:24 GMT -8
very good stuff...
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Post by Paul K on Mar 13, 2018 19:45:57 GMT -8
Some glaucus-type butterflies. I had to pull this drawer to investigate some research, and thought there may be interest in some specimens. I hope there is sufficient detail. Note the following specimens: 1. bottom row, second from left: red streaks along veins on HW. 2. bottom row, far right: seems to be a common (or, relatively common) freak 3. top row, far right: this is the one that caught my eye- there is no blue on the HW. See normal specimen to immediate left. View AttachmentHi Chuck I like your “common” freak. Would you please direct one on the other side of our lake 😉 Paul |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 15, 2018 7:12:28 GMT -8
Hi Chuck I like your “common” freak. Would you please direct one on the other side of our lake 😉 Paul I can't say "common" but of all the glaucus-complex freaks I've seen pictured, the most frequent is like that. I suspect it is temperature related...somehow...after all, -18C is not uncommon for the pupae, so I'm not sure where the shock would be- perhaps shortly prior to emergence? If you want to see unicorns and rainbows, Canada is fine, but if you want to see real freaks you have to go to NYC or LA. Chuck |
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Post by johnnyboy on Mar 17, 2018 3:56:05 GMT -8
I never realised how big P. glaucus could get until I saw one my friend had caught many years ago while enjoying a break with his family in the US. You are very fortunate to have so many beautiful butterflies and moths in North America. Here in the UK we only have one swallowtail species and even that is only really found in a small area.
Johnny
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Post by trehopr1 on Mar 17, 2018 9:59:08 GMT -8
P. glaucus is indeed a pretty good sized butterfly (generally speaking) with typical examples running somewhere between 5- 5 1/2 inches in wingspan. However, in Florida there is a subspecies P. glaucus maynardi which attains wingspans (on average) of 6- 6 1/4 inches. That one on sight simply dwarfs the typicals found in the other Eastern States; and for all the world is a "super-size" version. The July-Oct. months are the best for finding the latter brood big maynardi's.
There is a thread on the other forum (category: Lepidoptera) which I dedicated to this topic and have some size comparisons for you to see.
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Post by 58chevy on Mar 17, 2018 13:36:25 GMT -8
What other forum?
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Post by bichos on Mar 17, 2018 18:09:05 GMT -8
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Post by leptraps on Mar 18, 2018 16:33:16 GMT -8
I lived in Florida from 1987 to 1992 and again from 1999 to 2001. I collected Pterourus glaucua maynardi in Hernando, Collier, St. Johns, Duval and Highland counties. The April or Spring brood are by far the largest. The photograph below is a drawer of Papilio glaucus maynardi from April in Hernando County, Florida, there may also be several from Duval County, Florida. The three specimens to the right are from April in Kentucky. The large Dark female from Hernando County in the largest swallowtail (The largest butterfly as well!) in my collection  I have reached the attachment limit for this post(We now have a limit on attachments?). There is another attachment in the next post. |
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Post by leptraps on Mar 18, 2018 16:40:17 GMT -8
The photograph below, the top row are Pterourus glaucus maynardi from Florida. The Dark female is the largest Swallowtail in my collection. The second line are all from Kentucky. The Dark Female in the second line is the largest butterfly I have collected in Kentucky. By far, the Pterourus glaucus maynardi are a third bigger than the Kentucky specimens.  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Mar 18, 2018 19:22:45 GMT -8
Wow, that dark female maynardi is an absolute "Gigantosaur" for the species. You also have a very impressive assemblage of the subspecies -- best I've seen. Your statement about the spring brood being the largest runs contrary to the information I've been told by a friend who has visited Florida many different months of the year over many years. According to him the 2 latter broods are the biggest examples. I cannot interject anything to this as I have not spent the amount of time in Florida that you or my friend have.
Nonetheless, as mentioned in my above post; subspecies maynardi remains the un-questioned champion of size as far as P. glaucus is concerned.
Could we have a wingspan measurement (cm's) of the largest dark female maynardi?
Do you have any Florida holdings of P. cresphontes? What are your thoughts or comparisons of Florida cresphontes vs. maynardi?
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Post by johnnyboy on Mar 19, 2018 0:04:53 GMT -8
Lovely species and specimens, one of the great beauties of the swallowtails, thanks for posting
Johnny
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