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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 13, 2016 17:32:07 GMT -8
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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 13, 2016 17:36:47 GMT -8
 This one is from Costa Rica. Is it A. themis or tridens or neither? Thanks. |
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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 24, 2016 7:26:05 GMT -8
Can anybody help with these? Even a guess would get me close.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 13:58:18 GMT -8
My "guesses" regarding these are as follows. Listing mms for wingspans might help as might verso shots. These guys are not easy to ID and I would recommend you get confirmation or correction from Bill Oehlkew.
Top three pics--------A. godartii or cinctistriga, A. innoxia, A. liberia
Second two pics------A. cinctistriga, A. argentifera or A. banus banumediata
Third single pic---------A. tridens
Hope this helps. Bear in mind y'all......this is merely my attempt at IDing these for Chris and I may have errored. If so, educate me so I can be more efficient with this genus.
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Post by oehlkew on Jan 25, 2016 9:18:30 GMT -8
I like to help people with identifications, but I am very busy with my own work at the moment.
It is such a great help to have location (as precise as possible) and wingspans, that I seldom even try to start without that information in advance. I also request permission to post, to my website, credited to photographer, any images that I identify.
If Bugboy3 will provide wingspans and will grant permission for me to post images to my website, then I will have a go at identifications.
It would also be helpful if more precise locations are available as often there are extremely similar species from dry forest vs wet forest, high elevation vs low elevation, eastern or western, northern or southern slopes of mountain ranges.
Because I have checklists and comparison charts, in many cases, that allow for relatively quick identifications when the appropriate data is supplied, I can and will do the id work for others. I think it will still take a bit more time for me to do the id work than it would take
the photographer/submitter to measure and post the wingspans so it seems like a very reasonable request to me, that submitters of images for identifications measure and submit wingspans and are as precise with locations as possible. Dates and elevations are also very useful if that info is available.
Bill Oehlke
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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 25, 2016 9:36:14 GMT -8
Thank you Bill and Bill. Bill Oehlke I will get measurements and see if I can get more precise data on the locations. You certainly have my permission to use any of the photos.
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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 29, 2016 9:56:52 GMT -8
I am still waiting to get more precise location data, but I do have the wingspans. Wingspans measurements were taken from tip to tip on the forewings.
First row #1. 8 cm #2. 7.9 cm #3. 7.5 cm
Second row #2. 7.5 cm #3. 8.5 cm
Third row single picture 8.3 cm from Golfito, Costa Rica
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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 29, 2016 9:57:42 GMT -8
I am still waiting to get more precise location data, but I do have the wingspans. Wingspans measurements were taken from tip to tip on the forewings.
First row #1. 8 cm #2. 7.9 cm #3. 7.5 cm
Second row #2. 7.5 cm #3. 8.5 cm
Third row single picture 8.3 cm from Golfito, Costa Rica
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Post by oehlkew on Jan 29, 2016 16:32:03 GMT -8
Thanks for sending wingspans:
Here are my thoughts from left to right:
1 Automeris despicata due to very thin yellow line around hindwing ocellus
2 Automeris innoxia
3 Automeris liberia
4 Automeris cintistriga or godarti
5 Automeris banumediata
6 Automeris intertridens over tridens due to location and sharper forewing apices
If it is possible to receive larger images, I would like to have same for display on WLSS.
Bill Oehlke
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Post by bugboys3 on Jan 29, 2016 19:54:10 GMT -8
Thanks Bill,
I can get you larger images. Send me a PM as to where you would like me to send them.
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Post by oehlkew on Feb 17, 2016 17:07:22 GMT -8
I now think #4 is more likely godartii, and I am pretty sure #5 is argentifera, based on some new information.
Bill Oehlke
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