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Post by mpenn on Jun 3, 2016 13:55:51 GMT -8
I’ve just finished reading the 88 pages of this book. It would be nice to say things are looking up, but its a sad and depressing tale to be sure. The Bibliography pages 63-78 which lists numerous papers and surveys done on this beautiful butterfly over the last 40 years or so, with no action taken.2013 was the last entry. As far as I know, as of today the PNG government has not given permission to go ahead and breed this butterfly in large flight cages.
The complete in action by the PNG government to act on any of these recommendations is ridiculous and to sit back and let the Palm Oil Industry destroy whats left of QABB’s habitat is surely a crime.
Regards Mike.
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Post by ornithorchid on Jun 3, 2016 16:20:06 GMT -8
Revenues of insects farming are very little.
It is much faster to cut tress which are already within these big forests.
It is faster to put palm onto the lands you just removed the trees from.
It takes little time to train people to do these two tasks.
It is everywhere the same: the fastest and most $$$ efficient is the winner.
Equation solved!
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Post by nomihoudai on Jun 4, 2016 0:58:48 GMT -8
The complete in action by the PNG government to act on any of these recommendations is ridiculous and to sit back and let the Palm Oil Industry destroy whats left of QABB’s habitat is surely a crime. To be honest it's a crime what the Western consumer does to this world and the ongoing 'breeding' in any country is pure foolishness. All the cheap candies in super markets are oozing of palm oil, the majority of soaps, and any laundry detergent. I tried of not buying palm oil anymore, but it's not possible. At least in laundry detergent you have to buy it unless you buy even worser alternatives. We get what we were asking for by ignoring facts already stated in the 70's. We get what we were asking for when letting capitalism have its way. It's not the inactivity of the PNG government, it's the decision of the Western consumer and a rising population to flatten these forests. |
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Post by bichos on Jun 4, 2016 3:03:53 GMT -8
I’ve just finished reading the 88 pages of this book. It would be nice to say things are looking up, but its a sad and depressing tale to be sure. The Bibliography pages 63-78 which lists numerous papers and surveys done on this beautiful butterfly over the last 40 years or so, with no action taken.2013 was the last entry. As far as I know, as of today the PNG government has not given permission to go ahead and breed this butterfly in large flight cages. The complete in action by the PNG government to act on any of these recommendations is ridiculous and to sit back and let the Palm Oil Industry destroy whats left of QABB’s habitat is surely a crime. Regards Mike. Thanks for sharing Mike Very sad indeed, but merely a symptom of bigger issues...easy to complain not so easy to change and act. Any more details on the book? Who is the author? |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 4, 2016 5:32:52 GMT -8
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Post by mpenn on Jun 4, 2016 8:32:45 GMT -8
A footnote,to the start of this thread, Sorry it wasn’t much of a book review, more of a rant on my part. Thanks to Adams reply to my thread, he has reminded me that a book review should at least say wether it is worth buying or not. If you are interested in Ornithoptera and the literature about them, then you will want this volume in your collection. The book is full facts and references and photographs and has the most up to date info on the QABB good or bad.
Regards Mike
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Post by wingedwishes on Jun 12, 2016 6:54:02 GMT -8
It is not the inactivity of PNG or Western blah blah blah - It is the inability to sell CITES I species even if captive bred. Financial considerations have caused preservation and forest conservation though not on a large scale. There are documented and dumbed down examples in videos and elsewhere. Want to help preserve O. alexandrae? Find a way to breed them and sell them legally. Won't make enough money? WRONG. I recently had to drastically cut back my hours at work because the little business I have breeding and selling local insects and foreign insects is paying off. Others around the world are succeeding too. There are 2 others in the USA that I know very well too.
Need sources? Search for them. If you cannot find them, let me know and I will direct you to a few.
If the book caused the rant, I am not interested though I am glad the rant caused this discussion. I am less interested about reading a book about a species that I will never get to experience due to red tape. That was my rant. If you disagree, I'd appreciate civility, if you are able, in any rebuttal.
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