|
|
Post by joee30 on Aug 20, 2016 16:03:07 GMT -8
In the end, we only have a two party mafia to choose from. A lying witch and a loudmouth con man. As I was in the military, I believe people have the right to pick their poison. I am leaning towards the libertarian side more now. The more Rump make idiotic comments, and comes up with absurd theories, the less I think of him. But like I said, to each their own.
|
|
|
|
leptraps
Banned
Enter your message here...
Posts: 2,397
|
Post by leptraps on Aug 20, 2016 16:34:34 GMT -8
We have a choice between those who will continue to support the SLL (Stupid, Lame and Lazy) and we pay for it with OUR TAX DOLLARS. And as the number of SLL continue to increase, the more we will be taxed.
And a non-politician that is first class Bill $hit artist. However, he can manage money,and those responsible are held unaccountable.
However, I would like to see Bill Clinton in the White House with a boat load of horny female interns. It would run
Hillary crazy. And may she would kill him if she catches him.
The possibilities are extremely interesting.
Bill B. J. Clinton. Yeserie Buffalo Bob!!!! Toot the flute and swallow the music.....
|
|
|
|
Post by wingedwishes on Aug 22, 2016 18:31:40 GMT -8
Our televisions serve as the Circus Maximus as the leaders entertain and mollify the masses. Nero, like Trump is nuts.... But how much more fun to watch than the other "guy."
How about a mandatory national lottery for president? After 4 years, that person is beaten badly with a stick and forced to live by the median income of the people he/she represented? Heck- televise the beating. Use a martial arts expert to do the beating. Politics would change real fast.....
|
|
|
|
Post by beetlehorn on Aug 27, 2016 5:31:34 GMT -8
I would propose a demagnification of America to deal with the influx of too many people. What I mean by that is removing all the benefits they get (which by the way, we Americans don't get). Once they see that they are no longer getting a "free ride" so to speak, they'll no longer want to come here so badly. One aspect that really chaps me is the attitude that many of them have. They beg to get a visa, then when they do get here they want to impose their beliefs/values/religion upon us, sometimes even wanting to change our constitutional values. I just heard that Obama wants to bring in 200,000 refugees in October, and of course Hillary is right on board with him. I suspect Obama wants to do this because he wants to show NATO that he did his part, and that he is sympathetic to the muslim community. In my opinion, this would be adding to an ever growing problem here in terms of security, social acceptance and economical stress.
|
|
|
|
Post by joee30 on Aug 27, 2016 19:07:01 GMT -8
Well, that would sound nice, but Rump just flip flopped on his original message, which was to kick all them Mexicans out. Lol If he would of done what he is doing now, as we get closer to the end, 1. He would of been ahead in the polls, and 2. He would have the Latino, and maybe the black vote. It didn't help that he pandered for black folks to vote for him while in a primarily white town. At this rate, might as well keep the white supremacist, conspiracy theorists, and the nut bars on his corner. This whole election year is one giant circus act. 😔
|
|
|
|
Post by Cassida on Oct 12, 2016 12:24:59 GMT -8
Beside, some of the worst dictators, kings and leaders the world has known came from Europe. So I appreciate your point of view. Not so easy to say this. You must look to Africa and Southa America too. And what about Maya civilization,... Inhabitants of the USA are a young nation. You started your history with killing almost all of the original inhabitants (Indians). Than your slavery (and importing slaves from Africa), Civil War,... Nothing better than rest of the world,... Than were your civilization going up (also ideologically and morally). After the WWII it is going down (maybe permanently). In the last tens of years to many people in the world feel the USA like the biggest world "imperator" and murder,... I saw all ten episodes of The Untold History of the United States (Oliver Stone). It is a "mandatory film" for all the people! When somebody see this, must think, that USA = "fu..ig ba..ds". USA using other methods than Hitler or Stalin, but impact for the world is at least the same. USA killing in gloves (for example monetary slavery,...) and with the lofty goals,... All above is the problem of all nations (humankind is the foiled species  . But big nations have the bigger impact to the whole world. USA has no luck with their after-war presidents. I think there are very sad two wasted chances in cases of unelected presidents: Henry Wallace and Allan Gore. Sad is also, you have the choice between two bad candidates now only,... So a big country and usually two candidates only! And usually not a moral, honest and intelligent (however, they are rich,...). I do not know which is better, but I think Trump is a little better for the rest of the world. |
|
|
|
|
|
Post by beetlehorn on Oct 13, 2016 4:41:26 GMT -8
It is clear to me, and I think most people, that the news media is siding with Clinton. If the wikileaks emails would get the kind of attention as Trump's latest indiscretion, and people realized how truly corrupt not only Hillary has been, but also the Obama administration in their dealings with events such as Bengazi and the Iran ransom payment (which is truly what it was), most folks would reconsider who they would cast their vote for. They don't want this to get out, so they try very hard to keep us from hearing or seeing it being exposed.
|
|
rjb
Full Member
Posts: 187
|
Post by rjb on Oct 13, 2016 6:53:04 GMT -8
It is clear to me, and I think most people, that the news media is siding with Clinton. If the wikileaks emails would get the kind of attention as Trump's latest indiscretion, and people realized how truly corrupt not only Hillary has been, but also the Obama administration in their dealings with events such as Bengazi and the Iran ransom payment (which is truly what it was), most folks would reconsider who they would cast their vote for. They don't want this to get out, so they try very hard to keep us from hearing or seeing it being exposed. I don't see it that way at all. First the news media isn't siding with Clinton. Trump is getting a lot of bad press because of the way he is acting. Second, if Benghazi and Iran-ransom is the worst you can say about Clinton, then lets elect her now! This stuff has been hashed over by the republicans for years and it is really low-level scandal. Boring boring. How does it compare to Bush invading Iraq, or Bush crashing our economy- that is a real scandal. Trump is a very scary and disgusting candidate. Clinton is boring and lots of people who don't like her say that they don't think she is honest. A politician is not scrupulously honest? Oh my! Let's only elect the truly honest politicians. I'll vote for Clinton gladly. The Clinton years were some of the best economically that we have had in my lifetime. The US didn't do much war-mongering or bullying in those years either. |
|
|
|
Post by nomihoudai on Oct 13, 2016 8:06:02 GMT -8
The US didn't do much war-mongering or bullying in those years either. Well..., that's because Bill was busy under the desk, with other things... Ba Dum Tsss. |
|
|
|
Post by joee30 on Oct 13, 2016 12:13:27 GMT -8
This election is too much of a joke. Second debate passed, and all that is coming up is scandal this, scandal that. Trump thinking he is god's gift to women because of his "star" power, and his peons bringing up Bill Clinton's garbage. If I want a presidential election circus, at least add a big boobed, ditzy blonde porn actress, a half baked native american, and a legitimate actor/actress like Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's what happened in California when Arnie won the election. lol
|
|
|
|
Post by beetlehorn on Oct 13, 2016 16:29:39 GMT -8
I was not in favor of invading Iraq either. In fact I was strongly opposed to it. It did cause economic problems here in the US. I was never much of a Bush fan, especially in the first years. That being said, I am very much in favor of a non political, non-establishment candidate. Hey, if they (democrats and republicans) don't want him in there....I want him in there! Oh and by the way, I can think of some much more serious accusations besides the Benghazi or Iran-ransom events. In 2012 Hillary was running guns and other weapons into Libya, under Obama's guidance, arming the rebels against Muammar Gaddafi, which we tax payers covered. This was because our administration wanted a regime change. Then when half of the weapons ended up in ISIS hands, and the uprising against our American associates took place where Americans were left to fend for themselves of which the US ambassador and the head of the CIA just happened to be there at the same time. It is obvious they were left to die because neither Clinton, nor Obama wanted them to come back and "spill the beans" to the rest of us about what she was up to. They requested someone to send help many multiple times, and yet not a single plane or chopper was ever sent! Low level scandal!?! Give me a break! Go ahead and vote her in, then when some of the hundreds of thousands of so called refugees she wants to bring in attacks your neighborhood, give her a call and ask for help.
|
|
rjb
Full Member
Posts: 187
|
Post by rjb on Oct 13, 2016 17:48:40 GMT -8
Beetlehorn:
What you accuse Clinton of doing may be correct or not. It is typical of what has been going on as long as I have been watching. International politics is like that. Any suggestion that a jerk like Trump would behave better because he is non-establishment is very naive. Everything about Trump suggests he is power-hungry, abusive and hateful.
I suppose we don't discuss global warming here but the entire republican party is in denial. This is a far bigger issue than the squabbling of countries. Action is needed now, not after stalling for a couple more decades. How could anyone vote for a candidate that says all the science is wrong? Well I won't.
Also, I'm not against immigrants. All my relatives were immigrants many generations ago.
|
|
|
|
Post by beetlehorn on Oct 13, 2016 18:41:33 GMT -8
rjb:
First of all it isn't me that is accusing her. I simply stated what is already out there. I am not suggesting that an outsider like Trump would behave better, I am suggesting he would do better for the average working American because he is not a typical politician. So your assumption of me being "naive" is not only illogical but rather presumptive on your part. In regards to global warming, there are scientists that challenge it. I am still unsure of what is actually going on, and if it is truly such a big issue, what do you or anyone else suggest we do about it? You said it yourself...."action is needed now", what action? There are so many other issues at hand worldwide, like the crisis in Syria and Aleppo with Russia getting involved. People in charge of the major countries are so buisy being distracted by other factors that they push things like global warming aside because not even the scientific community can fully agree on how to counter act it. In regards to immigrants,..... I am an immigrant from Germany, thank you. The difference between immigrants and the refugees Clinton wants to bring in is intent. I went to American school from grade 1, and became an American citizen so I could proudly be part of this great nation. I can't help but think that many of the refugees coming in have other intentions. Just look at what is happening in Europe. What makes you think the same won't happen here? They come from a third world craphole country, just to try and make this into the same third world craphole they are seeking refuge from! Just like they are doing in Germany and France. They will never assimilate, because their fanatic beliefs won't let them.
|
|
rjb
Full Member
Posts: 187
|
Post by rjb on Oct 14, 2016 18:43:34 GMT -8
Beetlehorn,
Well, our opinions differ and I am sure we cannot resolve them here ... and it surely doesn't matter.
If you look more deeply into the situation of scientists and global warming it is possible that you would conclude that something like 75,000 scientists (involved in studies of earth's climate) think anthropogenic global warming is happening, is important, and needs to be addressed soon or the consequences will be quite severe. Against this 75,000, there were 3 scientists who disagreed. There are many approaches to solving this but deciding the best approach is not so much science as people, economics and societal needs. That requires the political parties in the US to fight it out. One party refuses to think about it. They are denying the science. That is an idiotic position.
Rick
|
|
|
|
Post by beetlehorn on Oct 15, 2016 13:11:10 GMT -8
I would like to apologize for the rants I made. I sometimes am so frustrated at what not only our country is coming to, but the rest of the world as well. One of the things that really got me upset a few days ago was the warning the former Russian leader Gorbachev gave to the American people regarding a nuclear war! Putin has really ramped up his nuclear program in recent times, and it scares the hell out of me. The Obama administration has been pushing Russia, they(Russia) have sided with Syria, and now we are expected to do something about the shelling in Aleppo. Both Clinton's and Obama's foreign policies may put us at grave risk if we aren't there already. Ted Koppel warned us of an EMP attack that could come from anywhere, and how devastating it would be to the US. It could conceivably leave us defenseless just long enough to allow a large scale attack by anyone able to do so. I agree that there is something going on with the world's climate, but in light of the dangers we may face from foreign powers, it is probably not as pressing an issue as some may think. There are so many troublesome issues in the world today..... bad economy, unbelievable national debt, ISIS, climate change, terrorist attacks, horrible diseases, war threats, scandals and distrust in our leaders, natural disasters, refugee crisis, and on and on. I cannot remember a time in my life when so much was going on at the same time, and it seems to be getting worse. As I am writing this with one finger, I hold my newest baby grand-daughter(literally), and can't help but fear for her future. I think we can all agree that the world is a treacherous place, and would very much like to have world leaders that can come up with some real solutions.
|
|
. But big nations have the bigger impact to the whole world. USA has no luck with their after-war presidents. I think there are very sad two wasted chances in cases of unelected presidents: Henry Wallace and Allan Gore. Sad is also, you have the choice between two bad candidates now only,... So a big country and usually two candidates only! And usually not a moral, honest and intelligent (however, they are rich,...). I do not know which is better, but I think Trump is a little better for the rest of the world.
