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Post by sam9710 on Dec 8, 2016 19:59:33 GMT -8
Besides, who can tell me what the specimen7 is? It really puzzled me.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 9, 2016 0:45:05 GMT -8
Besides, who can tell me what the specimen7 is? It really puzzled me. Looks to me like Cithaerias merolina from Peru.
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Post by luehdorf on Dec 9, 2016 11:21:41 GMT -8
Specimen 8 Specimen 9-10
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Post by sam9710 on Dec 9, 2016 20:08:24 GMT -8
Besides, who can tell me what the specimen7 is? It really puzzled me. Looks to me like Cithaerias merolina from Peru. Thank you paulk.
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Post by ornithorchid on Dec 10, 2016 16:59:57 GMT -8
I just purchased on Insect-deal C.andromeda esmeralda with pink/purple colour instead of blue also. View AttachmentMy C.andromeda bandusia has blue tips, I am not the expert on those as I just started to collect them but the difference between esmeralda and bandusia is very hard to determinate other than esmeralda occurs in Para State and bandusia in Amazonas State. View AttachmentWow wow the Cithaerias: so beautiful with their colors but what a mess with the I.D. The bright blue specimen in your second picture is indeed 'bandusia' and it is part of the current 'Cithaerias andromeda' section where you can also find the sub. sp. 'andromeda', 'azurina' and 'esmeralda'. The C. a. andromeda (not present within all pictures posted here; it has the most abundant amount of blue on the HW, also the most diffuse) often appears as 'phillis' from an old 'Callitaera phillis' nomenclature. To differentiate 'bandusia' from 'esmeralda' look at the small cell within the blue patch. The 'esmeralda' has this area covered in pink while it is transparent in 'bandusia'. This brings me to the first pictured specimen: the one that is pink and everyone would expect it to be blue... Well I have some of these, captured in the 70's and labeled as Cithaerias rubina. The 'rubina' is actually a synonym of 'Cithaerias andromeda esmeralda' (Callitaera rubina) and this goes very well with my previous comment of small pink cells within the colored patches. Now: is this a local form of C. a. esmeralda or an actual sub. sp. it's hard to say. I kept mine labeled as Cithaerias rubina. Hope this helps! Cheers, Emmanuel
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Post by Paul K on Dec 10, 2016 18:29:59 GMT -8
Thank you Emmanuel . Indeed Cithaerias it is a beautiful genus. Hopefully I can travel one day to Peru and collect and watch some there. I guess Brazilian Amazon is out of the question these days.
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