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Post by sloanus on Feb 4, 2017 17:31:05 GMT -8
As far as I know, Ornithoptera alexandrae is still classified as CITES 1 and endangered. Why, then, does this
ad appear today, 4 Feb, on the insect classified? Ad Number: 37193
Posting IP: 77.222.104.8 (Country: RU)
Richard Herwitt
California
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Post by ornithorchid on Feb 5, 2017 8:23:15 GMT -8
Same Ad. that was on eBay a few times... from $5000 to $4700 or best offer. Another one is now listed on eBay. You can get any kind of forbidden fruits from Russia 👈🏻👍🏻
👧🏼👦🏼👸🏼🐯🦊🐒🦋🐍
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Post by hewi on Feb 5, 2017 14:23:45 GMT -8
Russia has never signed CITES convention.
So he can offer alexandrae without fear of punishment.
But naturally the import in a country that has signed CITES
is not possible and the buyer must fear prosecution.
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Post by sloanus on Feb 5, 2017 14:30:16 GMT -8
Thanks for clearing this up. Was unaware that Russia didn't participate in signing CITES 1 agreement.
Richard Herwitt
California
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Post by stapleton on Feb 5, 2017 16:52:41 GMT -8
Same Ad. that was on eBay a few times... from $5000 to $4700 or best offer. Another one is now listed on eBay. You can get any kind of forbidden fruits from Russia 👈🏻👍🏻 👧🏼👦🏼👸🏼🐯🦊🐒🦋🐍 Have you ever succeeded in getting one? |
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Post by ornithorchid on Feb 5, 2017 17:41:58 GMT -8
I wouldn't take the risk to screw my life for a BUG
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Post by ornithorchid on Feb 5, 2017 17:44:00 GMT -8
Russia has never signed CITES convention. So he can offer alexandrae without fear of punishment. But naturally the import in a country that has signed CITES is not possible and the buyer must fear prosecution. O alexandrae is in PNG. Did PNG sign up for CITES? |
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Post by stapleton on Feb 5, 2017 18:07:35 GMT -8
I wouldn't take the risk to screw my life for a BUG Okay, then what it would be to come from Russia that you'd screw your life for? |
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Post by ornithorchid on Feb 5, 2017 18:21:23 GMT -8
I live in a country that signed the CITES and I would have the customs not only confiscate my package but they will also put me on a trial (cf. Bic with his birdwings confiscated in LA a while ago). Fees (including attorney) and potentially jail time!
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Post by stapleton on Feb 5, 2017 18:31:08 GMT -8
Exhaustive, thank you...
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Post by ornithorchid on Feb 6, 2017 5:04:48 GMT -8
⛔️⛔️⛔️
🖐🏻👈🏻👍🏻
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Post by stapleton on Feb 6, 2017 17:14:02 GMT -8
And what about eBay welcoming illegal sale offers time after time, giving no damn, without any responsibility? Is that all right?
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Post by exoticimports on Feb 6, 2017 20:17:41 GMT -8
And what about eBay welcoming illegal sale offers time after time, giving no damn, without any responsibility? Is that all right? How is Ebay going to vet sales? They'd have to be experts on CITES, Camaros, and Cameroon. Users have the ability to flag sales, it's a community driven and supposedly self-policing venue. If you don't like something, flag it to Ebay. But why? CITES is a swell idea that turned into (as always) a job generator. If USFWS, CITES, Wildlife Federation, Sierra, and all the rest really gave a damn about Alexandrae they'd be buying land, shooting poachers, farming species, and terminate logging with Iran-style embargoes. But all these organizations are nothing more than leftist noise- complain then do nothing- well, nothing but feel good rubbish that keeps them employed. Here's what CITES gives you:  Chuck |
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Post by stapleton on Feb 6, 2017 20:46:41 GMT -8
Just great, thanks, Chuck...
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Post by dynastinae on Feb 7, 2017 9:40:33 GMT -8
What would happen if we were captive raising a non-CITES animal that then became CITES? Would I have to give it up to the government?
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