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Post by exoticinsects on Apr 30, 2017 3:13:03 GMT -8
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could help me with a picture of the male and female of C. moesta from Halmahera/Bacan.
The pictures I found are of specimens very similar to C. cydippe and since I don't know the exact differences between the two species I can't confirm if they are really C. moesta.
I'm sure other people would also be interested in seeing a picture of this rarely encountered species.
Thanks a lot, Benny
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 30, 2017 6:56:56 GMT -8
Here's the entry from d'Abrera, hope it helps:  Adam. |
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Post by exoticinsects on Apr 30, 2017 9:13:45 GMT -8
Thanks Adam, totally forgot I actually have the volume on Australian butterflies  Well maybe someone has a male in their collection and would like to share a picture. , B |
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Post by lordpandarus on May 1, 2017 14:41:58 GMT -8
I saved this picture from somewhere online a long time ago  |
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Post by lordpandarus on May 1, 2017 14:49:17 GMT -8
or this, it said "Cethosia modesta" maybe it's just mispelled  |
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Post by exoticinsects on May 1, 2017 17:08:26 GMT -8
Thanks,
I saw the top picture as well (http://insectnet.proboards.com/thread/1064/cethosia-2)
However there is no way of telling if the Id is correct. No data, just an assumption because of what the seller said.
The second specimen is promissing. Do you know where it is from, what's the source?
Btw both specimens look very different, I doubt they are the same (sub)species.
I'm expecting some material from Bacan soon and this species seems to be very similar to C. cydippe, so I just want to be able to make a positive ID.
Very strange this species isn't better represented. Bacan material is regularly available and I would expect they pop up once in a while.
, B
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 13:08:50 GMT -8
I have a picture of my moesta somewhere, I'll dig around tomorrow see if I can find it.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 2:17:21 GMT -8
 Here is c moesta male |
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Post by exoticinsects on May 3, 2017 5:10:44 GMT -8
It certainly looks very different from Cethosia cydippe felderi from Bacan.
I wonder if a fresh specimen will be more reddish or rather orange like in the picture.
If I receive specimens of this species, I'll post a picture of the verso side.
, Benny
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 6:29:09 GMT -8
  I thought for pictoral reference I would post a few more pictures of cethosia as there is next to nothing on the internet so that if you should want to obtain them in the future at least you know what they look like, c gabinia male from Nias and a female c mindanensis from Tawi Tawi Island |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 6:39:49 GMT -8
  2 more never seen are cethosia cydippe antoni from Tanimbar Island and cethosia hypsea ssp from Nias. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 7:07:39 GMT -8
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 3, 2017 8:05:59 GMT -8
The specimen lordpandarus posted as "Cethosia modesta" does seem to be the same as the male C. moesta posted by inachisio65 (thanks for posting that and all the other interesting rare Cethosia photos), so it is indeed possible that fresh specimens are brighter red than the specimen posted by inachisio65.
If anyone knows what the first picture posted by lordpandarus really is it would also be useful for all of us non-experts in the genus if they could give us a name for this species too, thanks.
Adam.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 8:14:43 GMT -8
Seeing as it's my picture that Lord P posted Adam and was a mistake on my part I will clear it up tomorrow for you, it's certainly not moesta.
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Post by exoticinsects on May 3, 2017 8:20:59 GMT -8
Very nice, thanks for sharing. I think you switched up C. gabinia and C. hypsea from Nias. It's the first time I see C. hypsea from Nias, even in Tsukada it isn't recorded from there. A very interesting specimen! @ Adam, I noticed the similarities as well, that's why I mentioned the red/orange color. Since we're posting Cethosia pictures, here are two pictures of an aberrant female of C. myrina sarnada from Sulawesi. Just received it last week.   , B |
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