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Post by SoCalMountainman on May 4, 2018 13:50:33 GMT -8
I'm not being aggressive. I was being "lively" as Leroy asked  |
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Post by berg2036 on May 6, 2018 16:34:56 GMT -8
Heres the deal, I am not a big republican or a democrat, and i did not support him in the primaries. I am sick of the media bashing him. Hes doing what he thinks is best for out country, and thats what matters.
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Post by leptraps on May 7, 2018 16:26:23 GMT -8
I cannot believe the National News Media. They talk about every word Trump utters.I wonder what they would do if he broke wind. Especially if it was a wet and juciy one.
I am no Trump fan. However, he is driving the Democraps and the National News Media nuts.
He should delete his Twitter Account and not say a word for a week or two. He would drive the news media out of the minds.
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Post by exoticimports on May 7, 2018 16:36:15 GMT -8
The deep state still runs the country. Trump made a lot of noise about draining the swamp. He’s done next to none of that. He’s a distraction from the real problem.
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Post by rjb on May 11, 2018 8:04:20 GMT -8
Just got back from 3 weeks in southern Italy and Sicily. The volcanoes were awesome, the people are wonderful, the beetles were pretty good too!
This Trump thread is a hoot.
Personally I still find Trump disgusting in every particular. Paying Russian prostitutes to pee on each other? Give me a break.
I do not think the media is hard on Trump. This is how it has gone since before he was elected and it continues:
- Almost daily Trump says or tweets something demonstrably false
- The press jumps all over it showing with evidence that Trump has lied.
- Trump responds by presenting no counter evidence but simply declaring some idiocy like “Fake News”.
You can credit Trump with getting a rise out of the media but he does it the cheap way.
If I were to spread lies about Leptraps’s wife and family and he gets mad and calls me a liar, should everyone praise me for getting a rise out of him. Hell no! Anyone can can get a reaction by lying. Our presidents used to have enough self respect that they would respond to press criticism by showing the press was wrong or by apologizing if they made a mistake. Trump is an ass and can’t admit he is not a god.
Trump is an attention addict desperate for publicity (like most politicians) and he does whatever is necessary to stay in the headlines. The media is doing him a big favor by reacting to his lies.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 8:40:47 GMT -8
Unlike Obama and Hilary who are saints?
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Post by joee30 on May 11, 2018 18:35:32 GMT -8
Unlike Obama and Hilary who are saints? Of course it is easier to blame others than the person himself. Dude is about as false as them, if not about worse. I mean, he always has this $#it eating grin everytime he talks about how good, or bad ass, or whatever he says about himself. Most politicians are narcissists, but tRump is a whole different animal. It is rather comedic to be honest. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 0:59:40 GMT -8
I don't particularly like any politicians whether in my own country of anywhere else, I think they are all a bunch of self serving narcissistic people who cannot tell fact from fiction but I dislike the liberal elitest hypocrites in equal measure.
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Post by rjb on May 12, 2018 5:27:30 GMT -8
If you want to compare Trump with Obama, there are too many aspects. On integrity I would say it is obvious that Obama was one of our most respected for integrity. He disallowed any corrupt behavior. Trump stands out as the most dishonest president in my long lifetime, but I do not know if he is the worst of all time.
On accomplishments, Obama is often criticized by the left for not accomplishing much, but the right wing should be really happy about that. The republican congress was able to block Obama from doing anything. Still his one big accomplishment was really major- Bush dumped the worst recession of modern times on Obama's shoulders. It was pretty scary for awhile that the stock market might have crashed another factor of two which would have been a disaster. Obama pulled us out of that and handed Trump an economy almost completely back to normal. Trump credits himself with lots of stuff (did he actually help God create the universe?) but on economics it is all bull### so far. The economy has continued to improve but a little slower than under Obama. The deficit that Republicans have been ranting about is expected to get much worse because Trump wants to spend money big time.
Who cares whether Hilary Clinton is a lot more honest than Trump? The voters didn't want her.
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Post by leptraps on May 12, 2018 8:05:10 GMT -8
As I have said before, I did not vote for Trump nor did I vote for Clinton, the other one too.
But I did vote in the last Presidential election. A perennial candidate, Alfred E. Neumann. Neither Clinton nor Trump were worth my time to vote for them.
Now that the election is over and Trump has been in office long enough to torment the Liberals, I believe that Trump was the better of the two.
The Liberal's have been crying foul, and while they cry and moan, Trump tweets something foolish and the moaning and wailing grow louder and louder.
Trump will get things done, He is a very successful business man. He is not a politician. I think he thoroughly enjoys taunting the Liberals.
We could not have put a bigger Jack Ass in the White House if we would have tried.I am enjoying every minute.
If I knew he was going to piss off the Liberals, I would have voted for him.
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Post by joee30 on May 12, 2018 9:49:18 GMT -8
I would of cast my lot with Emperor Palpatine or Lord Buckethead from the UK. lol
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Post by beetlehorn on May 13, 2018 7:40:36 GMT -8
Any sitting president will get his share of opposition from the other party, and sometimes from within his own. Saying that Obama didn't "do anything" while in office due to republican opposition is absolutely false. He pushed the Iran deal through (which was an act of insanity!). He passed the so called affordable health care act, Obamacare (which was an attempt to get a single payer system, and only made health insurance rates skyrocket). Obama literally pulled the banks out of the fire after they got themselves into it! With our taxpayer money no less. He passed the "cash for clunkers" bill which boosted new car sales while turning millions of perfectly good vehicles into junk because Americans just can't resist the urge to go into debt for a new car they really didn't need. He spent more money and increased the national debt in 8 years more than all of the previous presidents that were ever in office! Oh, I think he did plenty!
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Post by exoticimports on May 13, 2018 8:26:19 GMT -8
On integrity I would say it is obvious that Obama was one of our most respected for integrity. He disallowed any corrupt behavior. While I often avoid politics, I think it important to rectify this perception; it is not political, it is observation and documentation of the systemic corruption in not only the Obama regime, but throughout US and other countries' political systems. I don't mean to attack USA, for corruption is human, in fact it probably stems from a basic survival instinct, thus is inherent in all humans, to some degree. We trust our leaders, and often for personal gain they are involved in corruption. Some of it is what is observed as corruption by even the most simplest mind- for example, the exchange of permits for cash in PNG. But corruption goes beyond a cash exchange- it can include actions taken to further the interests of allies, or hedge against attack by enemies. During WW2 the US was rife with corrupt companies supplying Germany with information and material (e.g., ball bearings) yet very few were prosecuted- that is corruption. Give that, recognize that corruption (again) isn't only a cash exchange, it includes judicial activism, racketeering, and failure to prosecute. So let us set the record straight on the Obama regime and corruption: * Louis Lehrner and the IRS targeting conservative organizations * Fast & Furious ATF moving guns to Mexico to boost fake data and fake news (racketteering) and failing to prosecute * Legislation in violation of the Second Amendment; failing to approve import forms; an environment of persecution of business interests * Attorney General Lynch and the meeting with Bill Clinton while his wife was under investigation * Failure to prosecute Clinton, Abedin, and Weiner on a variety of security violations * Comey leaking to the press It goes on and on. Why does this happen? Follow the money. Corruption means somebody gains at the expense of an innocent. The Obama administration did an absolutely marvelous job at marketing, colluding with the press to create a perspective of transparency and honesty. In truth, it was anything but. Again, this is nothing new. Corruption was a major factor in Benedict Arnold's treason. It's been going on forever. It continues with the Deep State. To state that a particular regime isn't corrupt is at best naive. |
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Post by rjb on May 14, 2018 6:41:14 GMT -8
That list of Obama administration corruption is pretty trivial for 8 years. Trump probably beat that in a week!
Most of those examples of corruption are not universally acknowledged but are paranoid interpretation of weak data. I am not expert on most of those issues. The one item that I understand thoroughly was the security violation accusations against Hilary Clinton. I and all my coworkers had an equivalent level of security clearance as Clinton. We generally agreed that the email problems that Clinton's political enemies have been hyping for years were trivial and happen to all of us. Many of my friends are strong Trump supporters and dislike Clinton, but they know that the email stuff is stupid misunderstanding by the right wing pundits. The FBI cleared her and anyone trying to paint Comey or the FBI as Clinton supporters who will hide security violations to help her is misled by their political zeal.
On the other hand, lying to the FBI is a big thing. I was reinvestigated by the FBI every 5 years to maintain my clearance. They ask lots of personal questions about drug use and money and what foreign nationals I have ever spoken to. If I admit to using drugs, it is probably not a big deal, but if I lie to the FBI about anything it is a federal crime. I lose my clearance, lose my job, maybe go to prison. So what is this with Trump and all his appointees lying to the FBI about everything. Like I said, my Trump-supporting friends still love Trump, but they were shocked at this administration lying to the FBI.
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Post by T.C. on May 14, 2018 11:57:32 GMT -8
So wait.... there is people who DON'T like Trump? Since when?
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