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Post by exoticimports on Jul 25, 2018 6:55:28 GMT -8
"The Butterfly Catchers" page 113
In a trend observed with NatGeo, it's all about the awful, black market trade in purportedly rare butterflies.
Occurrences of significant topics:
01 Collectors (positive influence)
04 Habitat loss/ conservation
07 Rare/ protected
09 Money
18 Illegal trade/ black market
Yep, another anti-collecting, "black market trade in butterflies worth thousands" myopic piece of left-wing Fake News.
To make it worse, the author repeatedly interweaves the sad tales of watching a collector kill a butterfly and the loss of his wife.
Glad I didn't renew my subscription.
Chuck
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Post by Paul K on Jul 25, 2018 8:38:23 GMT -8
“As long as there is the forest, there will be butterflies”
So true, uneducated villager from middle of the nowhere knows that.
They are catching butterflies for living for a decates and they are still there.
Yet highly educated, ignorant public from high developed countries will blame collecting for species extinction.
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Post by exoticimports on Jul 25, 2018 9:43:59 GMT -8
The whole thing is deceptive. The author's statements and inferences are Fake News.
1. Blumei is rare. Rubbish, it's commercially as available as a Toyota Prius.
2. All blumei are wild caught. Rubbish. Most of them are farmed.
3. Blumei can sell for up to $100. Rubbish. I can get one for 22 quid and that's in a frame. Papered they cost far less.
4. The poor collector gets paid pennies per specimen. Rubbish. He gets more money than that. Furthermore, if he had available a more lucrative source of income, he would do that instead. If he didn't have butterflies to generate income he'd have nothing.
Absolutely disgusting.
Chuck
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Post by Paul K on Jul 25, 2018 9:57:31 GMT -8
I totally agree with you Chuck.
Absolutely disgusting.
Paul
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 10:42:54 GMT -8
They don't have the brains to know that they know nothing.
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Post by mothman27 on Jul 25, 2018 17:09:26 GMT -8
Yep, I saw that article too.
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Post by jshuey on Jul 28, 2018 10:51:04 GMT -8
I just read this - and I'm not so offended as most apparently are. It's a story that makes a lot of points, but definitely dwells on the market for butterfly baubles and the machine that feeds the market.
John
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Post by luehdorf on Aug 4, 2018 5:53:30 GMT -8
I read this article in the German version, and to sum it up it’s just a piece of ###! I was so angry about this article I even considered to ask my lawyer to do something about this piece of completely one-sided propaganda.
This is not journalism, the author clearly had in mind to write an article about the bad butterfly hunters and then couldn’t even squeeze the bits of information that he found properly into his fake news direction. This journalist should be sued for writing such a piece of pure ###.
I mean even a one second google research would have showed him that Papilio Blumei costs around 10 US dollars and is farmed.
There are dozens of scientific articles how butterfly farming rescued the populations of Ornithoptera that were at the brinck of extinction in the 1970s.
It’s just such a pitiful piece of ###, where the emotion of the author, the emotion of seeing a butterfly getting killed between the fingers of one of the catchers is put above all and everything.
It’s like watching a sheep getting slaughtered for an African village of let’s say 50 people, and then telling them that they are inhumane and cruel and uncivilised for killing that poor sheep. Then you’d take away the sheep, and all the 50 people would starve to death, and die miserably in the dirt, but you can be morally correct because you saved the poor sheep!
It’s so unethically incorrect and so inhumane what this author is propagating that I am so disgusted that I just want to vomit.
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Post by luehdorf on Aug 4, 2018 5:55:33 GMT -8
Or as the famous german author Brecht once said: I can’t even eat as much as I want to vomit.
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Post by kentuckymothman on Aug 6, 2018 4:26:44 GMT -8
Wow, just wow.
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Post by kevinkk on Aug 30, 2018 20:18:02 GMT -8
I didn't see the program, but apparently didn't miss much, as far as tv programs, there was a nice one on pbs a while ago I don't remember the title, but it had the word "sex" in it...
An interesting thing I saw on a separate show, was video of this collector who had literally hundreds of the same species of sulphur he'd
collected over years in the same location, I'd never seen anything like it, case after case after case of the same butterfly, he claimed
that there was no noticeable decline in population, and the argument, was that usually, by the time a butterfly is captured, it's already
mated and laid eggs.
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Post by joee30 on Sept 3, 2018 14:37:30 GMT -8
I dislike using the term "Fake News" as it just conjures up the thought of "If it is critical of ME, then it must be fake" mentality. Now, if I can use the term Crap or Garbage, then I can completely relate, because that is how I felt for the most part, but I can agree with JShuey that it did have some good points to a fault. Regardless, this is what the world is becoming. Lets blame what and those which we don't understand for our own failures, inactions and faults, but let's not blame ourselves or try to fix things. Sad.
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Post by miguel on Sept 17, 2018 8:31:11 GMT -8
In the last years(also this year)when september arrives,National Geographic is offering here in Spain a colectable named BICHOS(Bugs in English),this collecteble offers with a magazine one box with a butterfly,a beetle or other insects,they say that those insects are coming from farms.
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Post by exoticimports on Sept 17, 2018 13:31:49 GMT -8
In the last years(also this year)when september arrives,National Geographic is offering here in Spain a colectable named BICHOS(Bugs in English),this collecteble offers with a magazine one box with a butterfly,a beetle or other insects,they say that those insects are coming from farms. Of course. It’s all about the money. |
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