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Post by rayrard on Nov 8, 2018 19:51:37 GMT -8
I believe the confusing trio are unijuga, semirelicta, and MESKEI. I don't have much trouble with parta, especially in the east where there is nothing like it with the heavy black dashes and a orange HW.
I work across the room from Larry Gall so he's taught me most of what I know about Catocala. The Fascicle is being prepared but lots of new data is being gathered.
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Post by timsbugs on Nov 10, 2018 12:35:24 GMT -8
I would be interested to hear Larry Gall’s thoughts on Leroy’s last cat, it’s amazing, I’ve never seen anything like it before, though I don’t have many confirmed C. semirelicta in my collection. Larry has been an amazing resource over the years, if it wasn’t for his help I would have given up on Catocala a long time ago.  Tim |
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Post by timsbugs on Nov 10, 2018 12:36:39 GMT -8
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Post by rayrard on Nov 10, 2018 17:03:52 GMT -8
I never collected semirelicta but based on that name that's what I'd think such a moth should look like with such relicta-like forewings.
Meskei and unijuga are difficult for me to separate
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Post by leptraps on Nov 10, 2018 19:49:52 GMT -8
As I have said previously, I am no expert, I know a good deal about Catocala, and most of my knowledge comes from my habitual habit of designing, making and using Bait Traps. When I have questions related to identification, I have several real experts that I can send photos and/or specimens.
I have had a rule, do not guess, if I am not "comfortable" with an identification, it remains in my boxes of UFO's. I also have a very good friend, John Peacock, who has an extensive collection of Catocala moths. I have numerous specimens with: "DET John Peacock" in my collection.
I use the same identification method/process throughout my entire collection.
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Post by bobborth on Apr 1, 2020 16:14:35 GMT -8
Several years ago I had three Lepidpterist who were/are considered a. very knowledgeable look at the Catocala in my collection. When it came to C. unijuga/parta/semirelicta, I received three (3) different identifications. Larry Gaul looked at them during a Lep Soc annual meeting, and he explained the differences, and I have used them to identify my new specimens that I collect. I have 62 specimen between the three species. All but six (6) are from west of the Mississippi. One of my best trips to Colorado was 1994. I used four (4) Bait Traps (They were all my newly designed "Flat Bottom". I came home with over a hundred Catocala moths. Another trip was to Unaweep Canyon, Uncompahgre Plateau, Mesa County in 2014 I only used three Bait Traps. However I collected many more Catocala moths in Light Traps. I also collected this stunning Catocala moth which I believe is Catocala semirelicta. |
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Post by bobborth on Apr 1, 2020 16:20:20 GMT -8
This is a stunning moth indeed. It is a form of C. briseis.
One of my most memorable Catocala collecting experiences was with Leroy in Virginia when a huge number of Catocala came to his MV sheet. Leroy has done so much to further the study of Catocala.
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Post by bobborth on Apr 1, 2020 16:22:54 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the MONA fascicle on Catocala is ever going to be published? Cheers, jh |
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Post by bobborth on Apr 1, 2020 16:25:04 GMT -8
We continue to work on the MONA but have other Catocala descriptions and projects to do first. It is more work than I thought but I don't want to make excuses.
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Post by leptraps on Apr 2, 2020 4:18:09 GMT -8
Welcome to Insectnet Bob Borth. We are a couple of months away from Catocala Season. The first person on Insectnet to collect a Catocala moth will begin the thread, Catocala Collecting 2020.
Bob Borth and I collected Catocala moths with my Light Rig Set Up in Caldwell Fields along Craig's Creek north of Poverty Hollow, Craig County, Virginia. That was in the mid-1980's. It was the only time I ever collected Catocala herodias. I returned several times, covered the area with Light Traps, Bait Traps and my Light Rig. Never saw another.
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Post by jhyatt on Apr 2, 2020 5:39:28 GMT -8
Welcome, Bob! And thanks for the update on the MONA fascicle. Glad it's still in the works. I quite understand, having once written
a technical (non-entomological) treatise myself. What looked like maybe six months' spare-time writing turned into
several years' work for me!
Regards,
John Hyatt
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