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Post by jf on Feb 3, 2019 10:05:47 GMT -8
I want to rear birdwings in the future but I don't know where to buy eggs or pupae. I'm currently living in Ecuador.
JF.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 3, 2019 13:50:28 GMT -8
... and how do you intend to do that? Apart from needing CITES permits to import them, they feed on Australasian species of Aristolochia and Pararistolochia which you would need to grow there. I very much doubt that adults would lay eggs on S. American Aristolochia, never mind the larvae actually eating and growing properly on them.
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jf
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Post by jf on Feb 3, 2019 17:21:50 GMT -8
... and how do you intend to do that? Apart from needing CITES permits to import them, they feed on Australasian species of Aristolochia and Pararistolochia which you would need to grow there. I very much doubt that adults would lay eggs on S. American Aristolochia, never mind the larvae actually eating and growing properly on them. Adam. Yeah, you're right, it was a crazy thought. It's just that rearing them has always been my dream....... |
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Post by exoticimports on Feb 3, 2019 18:03:24 GMT -8
You have plenty of great species in Ecuador to breed!
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Post by foxxdoc on Feb 5, 2019 11:58:52 GMT -8
Adam brings up an interesting point about aristocholia. local species vs foreign species. will they accept as food plants ? here in Florida many introduced plants. imported tropical milkweed has become established here. the monarchs are easily reared on it. the plants are larger and flowers certainly larger with more color.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 5, 2019 14:11:59 GMT -8
Adam brings up an interesting point about aristocholia. local species vs foreign species. will they accept as food plants ? here in Florida many introduced plants. imported tropical milkweed has become established here. the monarchs are easily reared on it. the plants are larger and flowers certainly larger with more color.
TOM Tom, The monarch is a very adaptable species and indeed in Australia and New Zealeand it feeds on non-US milkweed species, but birdwings are mostly highly specialised in their food plant requirements. Many of them will only feed on particular species. Perhaps O. priamus would accept a wider range of Aristolochia species, but I would be rather surprised if they will accept any South American species, as they are so different from the Australasian ones. Adam. |
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Post by joachim on Feb 6, 2019 14:00:11 GMT -8
as far as I know, many Ornithoptera are bred ( breeded / breed) in Papua and other islands. Therefor you can buy A1 specimens wit Cites.
The only one seems to be o. elexandrae and one sub of o. priamus I do not remember. The people breeding the ones have years of experience, the plants and the wheather.
Try the wonderful species that you have in your country!
Joachim
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Post by jshuey on Feb 7, 2019 6:23:11 GMT -8
I want to rear birdwings in the future but I don't know where to buy eggs or pupae. I'm currently living in Ecuador. JF. Keep in Mind that Ecuador certainly has laws that regulate the import of live plants and animals into the country. john |
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Post by badger2 on Apr 4, 2019 10:43:22 GMT -8
OP is on the right track, because fundamental to the genus of birdwing is the genus of Aristolochia, not local variations of host-plant preference. This is because without an overview of the phytochemistry of the genus Aristolochia, a beginning breeder will remain information compromised as science unravels the metabolome of wing pigment and the genetics and epigenetics of metamorphosis (ex. Vanessa cardui). Thus, a return to the old (over a century) German story of pteridines of Pieris which coalesce with the evolution of medical entomology. Aristolochic Acid / Chronic Kidney Disease www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30893813 |
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Post by fede on Apr 7, 2019 0:23:41 GMT -8
If you look for "Ornithoptera priamus breed" in actias.de you can find a post that describes the breeding of this specie and "Aristolochia Grandiflora, Aristolochia Clematitis and Aristolichia Durior( Macrophylla)" have been used to do so.
CITES is probably the main issue.
Fede
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