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Post by fishnbugz on Feb 23, 2019 11:16:37 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Feb 23, 2019 12:29:40 GMT -8
This is a global problem, large companies make huge profit but will not share it with their workers. That is way middle class is disappearing in developed countries and poor are stay poor in developing countries. Greed, greed and greed.
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Post by LEPMAN on Feb 23, 2019 20:29:49 GMT -8
I think this is common in Asia as well. The main difference is that a lot of them don’t have enough savings to stop working and boycott.
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Post by Paul K on Feb 23, 2019 20:37:09 GMT -8
I think this is common in Asia as well. The main difference is that a lot of them don’t have enough savings to stop working and boycott. That is the idea, pay workers just enough money to buy food and have roof over the head, that’s all!!!! You can’t save to become rich or to vote against your owner. Yes I really mean it, it is slavery, nothing really changed from the past.
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Post by leptraps on Feb 24, 2019 2:22:22 GMT -8
I should write a book about Corporations and powerful and greedy Unions.
Google: GMC, UAW & Lordstown, Ohio.
The Sedan type automobile is coming to an end. It is being replaced by Sport Utility Vehicles. Lordstown produces Sedans.
When you publicly call the management a bunch of "Dick Heads" or "Flunkie" and you treat the management AND the (Share Holders) "Owner's" like the scum of the earth. Then you will understand why GM has decided not to retool Lordstown and to shut it down.
The Union employees made $80K a year in wages and benefits. And we wonder why companies move to Mexico.
You never strike the hand that feeds you.
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Post by Paul K on Feb 24, 2019 7:11:30 GMT -8
If a business is not so healthy that it can afford to pay a reasonable salary - so the employee also can afford to buy the company's produce - Jan Then banks are coming with a "help" and one become slave to them too, must find additional after hours job to pay banks their share. Paul
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Post by fishnbugz on Feb 24, 2019 7:32:44 GMT -8
My point is, can any one of you find a US mainstream media article or video showing the story of these strikes?
70,000 people in the streets for a month, a billion dollars supposedly "lost". Yet every single day every single "news" station is pushing Venezuela crap to manufacture consent, trying to convince us that it's a humanitarian crisis if we don't get in there and steal their oil. Listen to John Bolton on Fox news, he slips up and says exactly that. He's the same dude who lied us into Iraq, still no WMD have been found though. I could honestly care less if Chavez or now Maduro isn't what Washington wants, can you imagine the laughter here if, say, Tehran decides they'll now recognize Pelosi not Trump as our leader? This "Maduro bad" crap is every single day on every single channel, but Matamoros Strikes gets a total media blackout- despite the fact that our own auto plants require the things they produce.
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Post by exoticimports on Feb 24, 2019 15:52:23 GMT -8
My point is, can any one of you find a US mainstream media article or video showing the story of these strikes? 70,000 people in the streets for a month, a billion dollars supposedly "lost". Yet every single day every single "news" station is pushing Venezuela crap to manufacture consent, trying to convince us that it's a humanitarian crisis if we don't get in there and steal their oil. Listen to John Bolton on Fox news, he slips up and says exactly that. He's the same dude who lied us into Iraq, still no WMD have been found though. I could honestly care less if Chavez or now Maduro isn't what Washington wants, can you imagine the laughter here if, say, Tehran decides they'll now recognize Pelosi not Trump as our leader? This "Maduro bad" crap is every single day on every single channel, but Matamoros Strikes gets a total media blackout- despite the fact that our own auto plants require the things they produce. An oft repeated untruth. In fact Iraq did have WMD since WMD includes chemical weapons. That Iraq did not have nukes was a surprise, a surprise for which the Iraqi propaganda must be given great credit, for they mislead the world to think Iraq had nukes. Unfortunately for them the subterfuge beat the US spies and advanced tools, giving US the excuse of invasion when the only intent was to defend against Iranian attack. Oops. As far as Venezuela, it is a shame anyone would downplay that crisis. I do know people in Venezuela and the crisis has been years of hardship. I believe they will STRONGLY disagree with your analysis that it’s manufactured by USA.
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Post by fishnbugz on Feb 24, 2019 23:59:21 GMT -8
Hmm- so no Matamoros strike articles, I take it?
The truth is, Saddam didn't want to deal in US dollars so we had to propagandize the US population to make consent, get in there and install a puppet. Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro, same thing but plan A(assassinate them) hasn't worked so far(they're still trying, as Maduro's speech the other day mentioned). If our already megarich bankers aren't making money in your country, as our history proves, we'll invade and start a war to change that. Our forces killed far more than any WMD Saddam didn't have anyway, plus we tortured some innocent people at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, totally changing what the US represents to the rest of the world. It only cost us something like 7 trillion to take out a guy who if left alone was harmless to us from the get-go, but guys like Cheney and Erik Prince got mighty rich. Minimum estimates of 200,000 Iraqi's dead, some as high as a million. Refugees have poured out of the region all over Europe and America in the 17+ years of war that have followed the invasion, spreading happiness and joy everywhere they went. What a freaking stupid waste, but it seems nobody learned a thing.
So despite John Bolton actually saying we were gonna go into Vz with our companies and get the oil, on national TV, you believe the US is a benevolent superpower who should be the world police? Humanitarian crises are happening right now in Matamoros, Yemen, Sudan, and half a dozen other places that are mostly ignored or purposefully kept out of the media. But this week in Vz, the US tried to force their "humanitarian aid" over the border and got a few Venezuelans killed and others injured, while ignoring the UN telling us to stand down and stop the shenanigans- that they(the UN) had the necessary aid covered. This suggests that the US did indeed manufacture a crisis this week, but I would argue that US sanctions are a manufactured crisis- they're a cause of inflation, they deny needed imported goods, eliminate oil income, and stop them from borrowing any money, i/e the US works hard to make it worse. The US forcing unwanted aid over the border, hey we HAD to do that, right? Vz burned it when they got ahold of it, it was THAT needed!
The fact that convicted war criminal Elliot Abrams was dug out of the trash bin of history to lead this mess in Venezuela is about all the information you need to know that you're being lied to, he straight-up lied to Congress and he was caught smuggling weapons disguised as "aid" in Nicaragua. This is why "humanitarian aid" is in parentheses in the above paragraph, they don't trust this dude at all because he's proven more dirty than feces. Not saying Obama was much better, but this Abrams guy is like an act of bad faith in the eyes of all Latin America. He belongs in jail, but Bush W pardoned him for being his right-wing buddy.
The US has had it in for Venezuela at least since they tried to drag Nixon out of his motorcade and tear him apart in the streets of Caracas 50 years ago, maybe longer; BUT more recently, Vz's leaders have refused to do business in US dollars and have encouraged others to do the same; THIS is the crisis, and they've failed to assassinate Chavez or Maduro, which was their plan A. I know, it doesn't match the propaganda you've consumed so you "STRONGLY" disagree. I look right past their propaganda though and consider what others are saying, understanding the news uses the majority of their efforts to misinform rather than inform.
Some suggested viewing- the first 10 or so minutes of this is a John Perkins interview that's a little outdated now but still explains exactly how the US does this kind of thing.
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Post by fishnbugz on Feb 25, 2019 1:31:59 GMT -8
If I linked this right it will start at 49:00, right where they get into Saddam Hussein and Iraq. I'm certain you'll learn a few things from this video that contradict your "knowledge" of the subject.
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Post by exoticimports on Feb 25, 2019 12:52:21 GMT -8
Economics- the bane of college students worldwide. Yet economics drives all decisions. Forgot who said it: war is economics that cannot be achieved with diplomacy.
Who cares about Matamoros? Oscar awards were last night! Far more important.
Look, there is all sorts of stuff that should be on the news but isn’t. Free Papua. USA #2 in global incarceration. SCOTUS split decisions.
Here’s my tinfoil hat: Iraq and The Wall are about economics. But not these topics themselves- they are distractions from the real economics they don’t want you to even think about. Matamoros isn’t enough of a distraction. If they wanted it in the news it would be in the news, but instead we can watch the Oscars and Emmys and football and The View. Or we can banter back and forth whether Iraq had WMD or if it mattered, or if Hillary should be in prison or whatever. Just distractions.
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Post by fishnbugz on Feb 25, 2019 20:57:36 GMT -8
These strikes threaten the US economy far more than Venezuela ever could, since it's already caused parts shortages at Ford and GM plants. It's cost the owner class a billion plus. It's also barely outside our borders and has major implications as to the effectiveness of "the(stupid) wall". This is something that should be a leading story every week that it continues. Instead they try to hide it from us while they starve out the strikers, as if making less than 10 bucks a day wasn't starving them out already. I reckon it won't be a crisis until they hop the border, but what other options do you see for them? Digging tunnels and building catapults for the cartels?
Fact is, I haven't found any new information about the strikes so far this week. The mainstream blackout continues, and everything that comes up I already had for several days to a month; but I have not found any articles saying "Strikes End" either- so I guess I'll assume they're continuing for now. I expect once it's over it will be OK for mainstream to run the story...just not during the strikes, since the idea might sound good to the wage slaves here.
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Post by LEPMAN on Feb 26, 2019 4:57:52 GMT -8
These strikes threaten the US economy far more than Venezuela ever could, since it's already caused parts shortages at Ford and GM plants. It's cost the owner class a billion plus. It's also barely outside our borders and has major implications as to the effectiveness of "the(stupid) wall". This is something that should be a leading story every week that it continues. Instead they try to hide it from us while they starve out the strikers, as if making less than 10 bucks a day wasn't starving them out already. I reckon it won't be a crisis until they hop the border, but what other options do you see for them? Digging tunnels and building catapults for the cartels? Fact is, I haven't found any new information about the strikes so far this week. The mainstream blackout continues, and everything that comes up I already had for several days to a month; but I have not found any articles saying "Strikes End" either- so I guess I'll assume they're continuing for now. I expect once it's over it will be OK for mainstream to run the story...just not during the strikes, since the idea might sound good to the wage slaves here. Don’t worry about them building tunnels and catapults. It’s more likely they will come help build trumps wall. He’s a businessman so I’m sure he will negotiate a great deal! (Note the sarcasm)
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