777
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Post by 777 on Sept 18, 2019 16:15:57 GMT -8
Hello! I am going to Oahu, Hawaii next spring. I am wondering if any butterflies there are protected. I am also wondering if the native crabs there are protected (If you don't know, I have a crab collection that I wish to grow). I know that Hawaii has quite a few endangered species, but I don't see anything talking about butterflies or crabs being protected. Despite the lack of information, I still want to be careful and talk to people who have knowledge about the subject. Any thoughts?
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Post by Paul K on Sept 18, 2019 17:00:44 GMT -8
as far as I remember reading here collecting on Hawaii is forbidden, anything is protected there.
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Post by wolf on Sept 20, 2019 4:37:24 GMT -8
I sent an email to the Dept. of Land and Natural Resources - Division of Forestry & Wildlife in Hawaii regarding this couple of years ago, as i was planning on going there myself. Unfortunaetly i didnt go afterall, but i'll attach the answer i got on email regarding collecting in Hawaii
"Thank you for the inquiry. We do not issue permits for take either of our two native butterfly species for collectors, only for research or recovery efforts. Those two species are the Kamehemeha butterfly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamehameha_butterfly), and the Blackburn’s blue butterfly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udara_blackburnii). However, you are welcome to collect non-native species that are found here, so long as those collections occur on private lands. To collect these non-native species on public lands managed by the State of Hawaii, you would need to identify where you plan to collect, and then seek permission from the appropriate land manager (ex. State Parks, Forest Reserves, etc.)"
Hope this helps
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Post by Paul K on Sept 20, 2019 4:54:00 GMT -8
This sounds not so bad, if one can stay in resort bordering some forest then collecting should be ok.
What about exporting specimens out of Hawaii?
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Post by bichos on Sept 20, 2019 5:33:46 GMT -8
What about other endemic stuff?
I once saw a large Parandra there.
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Post by mswisher on Sept 20, 2019 23:50:31 GMT -8
I lived on Oahu for four years (although I wasn't into collecting at the time) and now go back 2-3 times each year. I haven't had any issues collecting, although the isolated nature of the islands make them pretty barren for insects in general. You will easily find several invasive species, including Papilio xuthus, Agraulis vanillae, Danaus plexippus, Phoebis agarithe, and several Lycaenidae (I collected a few Zizina otis this summer and Brephidium exile are widespread). Even if you were able to collect the two native species, I have never seen either and I have done a lot of hiking there (although I have never found any documentation that says collection of native species is prohibited). Collecting at any of the busy tourist locations would be problematic, but if you go to the North Shore or the windward side of the island, it is a lot more rural. I have also had luck going to some of the golf courses and collecting in areas around the clubhouse/parking lot. Exporting is not an issue (they are only concerned about bringing stuff in, not taking stuff out). Basically, collecting in Hawaii follows the same rules as any other state. If you want more details, feel free to message me - I will be happy to share advice on Hawaii in general as well.
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777
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Post by 777 on Sept 21, 2019 7:51:01 GMT -8
I lived on Oahu for four years (although I wasn't into collecting at the time) and now go back 2-3 times each year. I haven't had any issues collecting, although the isolated nature of the islands make them pretty barren for insects in general. You will easily find several invasive species, including Papilio xuthus, Agraulis vanillae, Danaus plexippus, Phoebis agarithe, and several Lycaenidae (I collected a few Zizina otis this summer and Brephidium exile are widespread). Even if you were able to collect the two native species, I have never seen either and I have done a lot of hiking there (although I have never found any documentation that says collection of native species is prohibited). Collecting at any of the busy tourist locations would be problematic, but if you go to the North Shore or the windward side of the island, it is a lot more rural. I have also had luck going to some of the golf courses and collecting in areas around the clubhouse/parking lot. Exporting is not an issue (they are only concerned about bringing stuff in, not taking stuff out). Basically, collecting in Hawaii follows the same rules as any other state. If you want more details, feel free to message me - I will be happy to share advice on Hawaii in general as well. Do you know any laws regarding the taking of crabs in Oahu? There are lots of species of crabs there that I'm interested in. A lot of them live among coral, and I know that people get protective with coral and the surrounding life, and for good reason. |
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Post by mswisher on Sept 21, 2019 8:05:44 GMT -8
No, I don't really know anything about crabs. They are harvested for food, so my guess is you might need some type of fishing license. There are many crabs on the beaches, but finding them on the reef is kind of tough.
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Post by 777 on Sept 21, 2019 8:13:40 GMT -8
When I go there, I will ask about it. Also, thank you all for the information regarding the collecting of butterflies there!
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Post by erebia on Sept 21, 2019 10:05:03 GMT -8
Mswisher, I understand that white Monarch butterflies are present in fairly good numbers on the Hawaiian islands. Have you seen any, and if so, are they mixed with the normal orange forms or do they occur in separate colonies?
Thanks, Dale
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Post by mswisher on Sept 22, 2019 21:04:43 GMT -8
I haven't seen any white ones, but the shades of orange seem more variable than what you see on the mainland.
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