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Post by laurie1 on Sept 23, 2019 12:36:33 GMT -8
Extreme caution recommended!! This person is advertising "freshly caught" using a photograph that they do not own.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 23, 2019 13:05:47 GMT -8
As far as I know the Natewa Peninsula has been CLOSED to all collectors since the beginning of 2019, so I am very suspicious that anyone claims they have fresh specimens for sale.
I suppose it is possible that he has obtained some of the few specimens that were taken to Japan late last year.
I agree with Laurie, extreme caution should be exercised before buying.
Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 24, 2019 1:23:54 GMT -8
A natewa was for sale in Tokyo fair this week.
+ when I see the value of natewa, I doubt that locals won't catch some.
Laurie, what do you mean ? Is it your picture ? If so, I will delete this ad and ask the sellers to put his own picture and precise the catching date.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 24, 2019 3:10:58 GMT -8
A natewa was for sale in Tokyo fair this week. + when I see the value of natewa, I doubt that locals won't catch some. Laurie, what do you mean ? Is it your picture ? If so, I will delete this ad and ask the sellers to put his own picture and precise the catching date. I can confirm that this photo was taken in 2018, and the hand holding the specimen is NOT Japanese. Adam. |
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Post by laurie1 on Sept 24, 2019 10:50:13 GMT -8
A natewa was for sale in Tokyo fair this week. + when I see the value of natewa, I doubt that locals won't catch some. Laurie, what do you mean ? Is it your picture ? If so, I will delete this ad and ask the sellers to put his own picture and precise the catching date. Yes Olivier, I own the photograph. |
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Post by exoticimports on Sept 25, 2019 4:59:59 GMT -8
I don't know what p. netawa sold for in Tokyo, but I presume the Fijian local who sold it got several hundred US$ for it. That's a huge amount of money for a villager living in a remote area.
The Fijian government may try to control the trade, but I assure you that with so much money literally "flying around" specimens will be sold.
The best thing that can be done is to establish a breeding facility to relieve pressure on the wild population. Sadly, this probably won't happen; I reflect on papilio aristodemus ponceanus, which was readily bred in captivity but that stock was not used to satisfy consumer demand. The wild population is currently restricted in range, threatened by hurricanes and development, and certainly at-risk. A commercial enterprise could financially support efforts to sustain the wild population, but nothing is done. Undoubtedly, a few specimens are secreted from the wild population each year.
Chuck
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 26, 2019 5:57:47 GMT -8
Yes Olivier, I own the photograph. Hi Laurie, I have removed his ad from the Classifieds and emailed him to use his own pictures. |
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Post by laurie1 on Sept 27, 2019 17:03:48 GMT -8
Yes Olivier, I own the photograph. Hi Laurie, I have removed his ad from the Classifieds and emailed him to use his own pictures. Thanks Olivier  |
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