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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 13, 2020 8:40:47 GMT -8
From Ha Giang, North Vietnam .I thought it was a female H. assimilis but I'm not sure. On this site the female H.assimilis still has red spots and not all black and white yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750260001.html |
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Post by Paul K on Dec 13, 2020 9:04:54 GMT -8
Could be variation, by the wing shape it looks more like a male.
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 13, 2020 9:14:38 GMT -8
Well, there was many identical ones for sale, so it's not an individual variation.
I agree it looks like a male though.
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 13, 2020 9:25:57 GMT -8
ok so this one is also from Ha Giang,North Vietnam. Normal H. assimilis male .So the other one is either the female or a different species.  |
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Post by andrewtim on Dec 18, 2020 8:47:19 GMT -8
I also have several ssp-s of H. assimilis, including same as yours. My opinion is that is a form of normal assimilis, but what is the reason of such variation is still a question to me. May be some guys familiar with the subtropical and tropical species can give their comments. I reared another sp - Hestina japonica - and it has 2 generations - spring and summer, of which the first one is very pale and the latter is very contrast, just like another specie. It's difference in appearance is very similar to your H. assimilis example.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 18, 2020 15:22:27 GMT -8
I suppose your specimen could be dry season form.
In Indochina there are hundreds of species that have seasonal forms.
Usually dry season form is much more pale than following wet season form.
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Post by benihikage92 on Dec 19, 2020 5:52:52 GMT -8
It's a male. Here in Japan, the spring brood is light-colored like the one in your first picture. The second and the third brood are like the one in your second picture. Females have more elongated wings. The three from the top in the picture below are females, spring brood. The fourth is a male, also spring brood. Males are darker. They overwinter as 3rd instar larvae. Cold temperature and/or low humidity during the larval and pupal stage probably contribute to its light color.  |
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Post by andrewtim on Dec 20, 2020 1:12:23 GMT -8
I suppose your specimen could be dry season form. In Indochina there are hundreds of species that have seasonal forms. Usually dry season form is much more pale than following wet season form. This is possible too, but: I saw many times the fresh caught specimens of this Hestina forms (from Vietnam) were mixed. If collected in the same season why are they mixed? This is a question to me. |
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 20, 2020 8:15:28 GMT -8
what I have on the data is that the pale one I posted was caught in July and the one with red spots in June (2020)...the opposite of what it should be.
But I agree the wing shape suggests it's a different form of the male
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Post by Paul K on Dec 20, 2020 9:04:42 GMT -8
what I have on the data is that the pale one I posted was caught in July and the one with red spots in June (2020)...the opposite of what it should be. But I agree the wing shape suggests it's a different form of the male June is a beginning of wet season. There are only two explanation to this species and your specimens. 1. There are two forms ( many species have two forms occurring in the same time and same locality ). 2. Because none of them was collected by any of you the data maybe incorrect ( exact date of collecting ) I’m not familiar with this species as it does not occur either in Laos nor Thailand. |
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Post by andrewtim on Dec 22, 2020 10:32:48 GMT -8
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 19, 2021 8:25:11 GMT -8
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Post by trehopr1 on Jan 19, 2021 10:29:48 GMT -8
Not to change the subject but, I have a request.
Looking over some of your collection pic's you have really
come across some marvelous species over the years. Some are
Anaea. I've always had a fondness for the genus (as I have none).
So could you possibly post us some pic's of your wonderful
specimens you have acquired over the years ?
I'm certain all will appreciate the topic of Anaea and I have no
doubt that your examples will be some of the best we will have seen....
Thank you !
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 19, 2021 12:32:48 GMT -8
As you probably know my specimens end up in large Riker mounts , which I feel keeps them the safest and intact over many years. But it's really hard to take pictures across the glass. I didn't make a habit of taking pictures just off the setting board until recently. But I'll try to dig out the notable specimens. Also I haven't been that lucky with Anaea. The rare ones are ALWAYS expensive and i rarely get a lucky break in auctions, but here's a few. Memphis phantes .Largest blue species I've seen Consul excellens Not a perfect specimen but ok. Also the specimen was a bit "wet" and killed to early making setting difficult Memphis aureola .Was lucky to spot it on Ken Thorne's site for 15$.Perfect one too   |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 19, 2021 12:33:46 GMT -8
M. aureola  |
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