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Post by alankirkbright on Dec 29, 2020 10:41:18 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Dec 29, 2020 12:32:54 GMT -8
Large Saturnid moth 3rd photo is Copaxa australoescalantei
5th photo, Saturnid moth in the middle is Periphoba maybe rudloffi species.
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Post by alankirkbright on Dec 30, 2020 2:44:35 GMT -8
Large Saturnid moth 3rd photo is Copaxa australoescalantei 5th photo, Saturnid moth in the middle is Periphoba maybe rudloffi species. Thank you sir ! You were spot on with both after I compared the names to pics on the net. Ver much appreciated  I'm surprised I've had no luck with the brown spotted beetle after trawling the net. Its 63mm long from tip of head to end body. |
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Post by Paul K on Dec 30, 2020 8:35:47 GMT -8
Orange Heliconiinae butterfly on last photo I suppose is Acraea serena. Next to the right Satyrinae Pararge aegeria.
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Post by bandrow on Dec 30, 2020 8:44:11 GMT -8
Greetings,
Your first beetle is a female specimen of some species of Cheirotonus in the subfamily Euchirinae of the Scarabaeidae. Some workers consider them a separate family Euchiridae. The species are distributed from southern China throughout SE Asia.
They are difficult to identify to species, especially for the females, and in my opinion have been over-described, not unusual for large, showy groups with a commercial value. More species means more names on dealer lists, and higher prices...
The two large long-horned beetles in image #2 are Cerambycidae in the subfamily Prioninae, and I believe they are Bandar pascoei, or something very close. The species is distributed widely in SE Asia, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines.
Hope this helps somewhat...
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by Paul K on Dec 30, 2020 8:46:32 GMT -8
Your beetle maybe is Euchrinae cheirotonus female.
I collected one specimen in Thailand and determinate as such species but I’m not a Coleopterist guy so someone here should confirm this.
PS.
While posting this Bandrow our best beetle specialist post his determination, which confirms mine was not far out 🙂
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Post by alankirkbright on Dec 30, 2020 10:02:37 GMT -8
Excellent identification ! Paul K and Brandrow. Following your info I found the beetle to be Euchirinae cheirotonus peracanus krieshe - female. I'm guessing that's why it doesn't have long arms ? The orange butterfly was bang on Paul. I think the way the wings were arranged on my specimen threw me off course when I was looking for a match. And thanks for the match on the Satyrinae. Thanks for the info on the longhorns Brandrow, they were a perfect match I've just these to name now. I've only been collecting and learning for the past few months so thanks for all the help  |
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Post by yorky on Dec 30, 2020 10:29:57 GMT -8
Apparently Oberthur was a dealer as well as a collector, his data labels look like this one on this hippocrates. Attachments:
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Post by Paul K on Dec 30, 2020 10:32:04 GMT -8
Bottom brown with blue spots it’s Satyrinae :
Pierella hortona and one above beetles: Elymnias hypermnestra
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Post by Paul K on Dec 30, 2020 10:53:12 GMT -8
Your clearwing looks like Dircenna adina ( your specimen shows underside)
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Post by alankirkbright on Dec 30, 2020 10:59:56 GMT -8
Apparently Oberthur was a dealer as well as a collector, his data labels look like this one on this hippocrates. There is some writing exactly like that style on the back of the case. I also noticed that the thin glass on the case is really ancient handmade glass, if you look at it from an angle its full of ripples. |
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Post by yorky on Dec 30, 2020 11:07:11 GMT -8
I have a few Oberthur specimens,the labels are pretty uniform. The hippocrates is in pretty good condition for 136 years old.
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Post by alankirkbright on Dec 30, 2020 11:15:17 GMT -8
Your clearwing looks like Dircenna adina ( your specimen shows underside) Wow ! perfect matches again Paul. I never realised it was reverse pinned  Many thanks again |
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Post by alankirkbright on Dec 31, 2020 9:00:01 GMT -8
Thanks for all the help. Just these 3 left with no name.  |
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Post by Paul K on Dec 31, 2020 9:27:47 GMT -8
The moth belongs to family: Geometridae
Subfamily: Ennominae.
Without data where it came from it will be very difficult to determinate which species it is.
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