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Post by gaspipe on Jan 11, 2021 14:48:00 GMT -8
Reason I ask is something such as S. diana would seemingly be easier to fake.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 12, 2021 0:10:55 GMT -8
This must be genuine, as apart from the mosaic underside of the female forewing the abdomen is abnormal too.
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Post by wolf on Jan 13, 2021 14:53:58 GMT -8
Here is my current classification of Papilio memnon with photos of each ssp. I included a ventral male of many ssp. to show the difference. ... Really nice post Adam! To me ssp. lowii has been the nicest one visually, atleast when it comes to the males. BUT, now when i saw your picture of ssp. caeruleus, i was like "wow!". I dont know if its just because the picture quality is better on that photo, but the blue on those males are outstanding! Sort of reminds me of P. polymnestor. Thanks for posting all those pics!
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 14, 2021 0:41:14 GMT -8
I am glad you enjoyed seeing the memnon subspecies. Indeed ssp. caeruleus is spectacular, I never get bored of opening that drawer. Unfortunately I don't have any females which are also beautiful, similar to babimemnon.
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Post by Paul K on Jan 14, 2021 10:08:50 GMT -8
Ssp.caeruleus and babimemnon are my favourite too. In fact I never have a chance to see them until Adam post them here, unless I saw the drawer once I visited Adam four years ago, but due to very large collection he has and material we went thru I don’t remember it. Females are especially beautiful with the hint of blue on their hindwings.
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Post by yorky on Jan 14, 2021 11:17:04 GMT -8
I would post pictures of some of the incredible memnon forms that I have obtained from Adam but for some reason that option seems to have disappeared.
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Post by leptraps on Jan 14, 2021 13:12:03 GMT -8
I have seen three (3) Bilateral Grand gynandromorph of Speyeria diana. All three have appeared in Lep Soc publications. Two of them were reared and one was collected.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 14, 2021 13:31:11 GMT -8
I would post pictures of some of the incredible memnon forms that I have obtained from Adam but for some reason that option seems to have disappeared. I have informed Olivier about the problem. I suspect there may be a Proboards settings issue. Hopefully he can sort it out and you can post some interesting photos Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Jan 14, 2021 14:02:41 GMT -8
I would post pictures of some of the incredible memnon forms that I have obtained from Adam but for some reason that option seems to have disappeared. I have informed Olivier about the problem. I suspect there may be a Proboards settings issue. Hopefully he can sort it out and you can post some interesting photos Adam. Looks like you didn’t pay your premium membership ( donation ) for 2021 and the option of direct posting pictures has been removed from your account.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 14, 2021 14:49:09 GMT -8
Paul may be right about that, but if not please contact Olivier.
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