Beware Jingke Li is active again!!!

And he has learned to speak Czech too!

I hadn't realised that he had become inactive... judging by the emails that frequently arrive...

Unreliable data is a total understatement!!! He deliberately fakes data in order to sell cheap specimens for higher than normal prices. Try doing a search for Li Jingke in the old forum, and you'll find some examples there.

Just for an example he was selling $5 Papilio krishna charlesi (from Sichuan) for $30 each with data "Pongsaly, N. Laos". He also sold Sichuan P. bootes ($3 each in Sichuan, maybe) with the same data for $20 each. I have examined specimens and not only are they clearly from Sichuan, but the bootes were specifically selected (white spotted form only, black form would be too obvious to most collectors).

I know of many other similar fake specimens, and to be blunt, his actions are fraudulent and in any other business they would be acted upon by the police. Sadly in future such specimens with fake data will end up in museums, and researchers will not realise the data is fake.

Adam.

A serious seller in China with accurate data would earn a lot of money... too bad, no Chinese man has understood it for the moment.

Another example, Delias lattivita formasana lives only in Taiwan. It is offered from Sichuan by a Chinese seller on Ebay. I kindly inform him his identification was false and that he may receive complaints from potential bidders.

--> He answered me he was 100% sure formosana fly in Sichuan ...

the insects of china in international market mostly and originally were from native dealers,they got little points about the importance of accurate collecting data,as they collect as many as possible in bulks, so what they care more is how to come more money by the several "good species",for other insects ,some of which were putted together and sold as "mixed",so this is one of the problems. mixed a lot insects can never have a same data.

here a few chinese DO have the correct and accurate data as the hunted themself and they are not into commercial issues. and don't like to collect exotic insects.in stead they collect mainly china's domestic species. i know a man,the boss of a company he paied to his friends and gave them a jeep for helping him to collect domestic lucanidae of china. so his men went to different prov. of china and collected many good uncommon species. and some he donated to the china scientific agencys that rearch insects. he doesn't even buy from the native dealers as he told me before ONLY COLLECT the insects with 100% correct data. and this must be guaranteed.

many species/genus can not be identifiated easily for the hobbiests or dealers as the lack of books this is different from Japan ,Europe that many books for hobbiests available for ID. that's a problem,for the most basic ID,just in a need of the latin name is difficult.

and,other data like collecting date,places,and altitudes,the 3rd one is impossible for the native dealers,don't expected they will take a altitude watch when making collecting in wild.

Adam"they'll just carry on beliving the books they read",anything wrong in books? for the unknewn species only from websites or books,for ID the most basic element "latin name". if not from books so from where???and for the rest data(places,date of collecting) should base on where or whom they obtained the specimens from. the second one don't need to rely on books. and this is the possibility coming out fake data.