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Post by kevinkk on Feb 5, 2021 23:43:34 GMT -8
Has anyone here, ever received a permit to raise non-natives in the states? Or know any hobbyist who has?
I read something on Actias I have trouble believing.
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Post by leptraps on Feb 6, 2021 5:50:05 GMT -8
I know of several individuals who have brought live material into the USA. Whether they had permits, I do not know. One of them was active on InsectNet years ago.
I know an individual who has brought live material in the USA. He does not sell any of it. He just wanted perfect specimens.
Did not Alex Bic get caught trying to bring live(??) material into the USA?? Or was it papered?
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 6, 2021 6:07:13 GMT -8
He faced legal troubles in the US because of some Ornithoptera and their paperwork.
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Post by jshuey on Feb 6, 2021 7:19:37 GMT -8
Has anyone here, ever received a permit to raise non-natives in the states? Or know any hobbyist who has? I read something on Actias I have trouble believing. Getting a permit like this is very difficult. I was involved with an application something like 30 years ago and it took almost a year to work through the process back then. At a university. First and foremost, you have to have biosecure containment. Almost impossible for an individual to comply with the regulations. And the regulations are in place to prevent the creating of new invasive species - so pretty important if you want my opinion. John |
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Post by kevinkk on Feb 6, 2021 7:55:10 GMT -8
The subject came up after someone asked about rearing a non native, and they are here in the USA, I answered it, and some know it all kid
chimes in and says-you need a permit. Okay, so I answered that you cannot get a permit in the USA for non natives.
Mr. Bubblegum comes back with- I applied for a permit and they accepted it, he's also here in the states.
Okay, I'm not starting an argument in Germany with someone in the USA, that's why I'm asking smarter and more experienced people.
I'm familiar with both individuals, I think the permit guy is deluded and accepting an application is a bit different than getting one.
I looked into this 40 years ago, and you could get an import permit, but it was males only in even years, females in odd, or vice/versa.
I doubt it's changed for the better.
At any rate ,even if a hobbyist could get a permit, you'd be subject to examination by the feds, this topic has come up at the Beetleforum,
and some people think it's worth it, personally, all Kevin wants from Uncle Sam is a check with my name on it.
I'm not going to edit this comment, however, I could have been less offended by the original conversation. I'm glad younger and presumably
less experienced persons take an interest. I think the applicant is going to get enough harshness from the regulatory agency.
Maybe not, and they'll share the experience. 2-7-21
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