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Post by Paul K on Feb 17, 2021 18:26:37 GMT -8
Mimicry is very interesting topic and can be very well observed in insect’s live. In thread of Euploea genus we discussed mimicry of E.mulciber and other species. Below is the fine example of batesian mimicry. Top: Euploea mulciber mulciber - model, left: female-Phuket, Thailand right: male-San Sai, Chiang Mai Prov., Thailand Middle: Elymnias malelas malelas - left: female- Phrao, Chiang Mai Prov., Thailand right: male- Koh Phangan, Thailand ( very rare record from south Thailand ) Bottom: Papilio paradoxa telearchus - right: male- Phin District, Savannakhet Prov., Laos  |
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Post by Crake on Feb 17, 2021 18:48:05 GMT -8
It's fascinating how the females of both P. paradoxa and E. malelas are mimetic of Euploea mulciber females. I don't have a specimen of Siproeta stelenes to compare it to, but Philaethria dido is another fine example. Here is a specimen I just set.  |
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Post by Paul K on Feb 17, 2021 19:58:37 GMT -8
These are specimen I had a chance to collect during my trips. Top: model - Philaethria dido dido - Kaw Mountains, French Guiana Bottom: Siproeta stelenes stelenes - Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Feb 17, 2021 21:17:48 GMT -8
Great specimens throughout AND fascinating topic !
I have both of the green species as these have always
been favorites of mine. I picked up my P. dido in a trade
with a fellow collector (he had five). My S. stelenes came
as a personal capture in Ecuador 1988
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Post by leptraps on Feb 18, 2021 5:58:07 GMT -8
Siproeta stelenes (The malachite), a rather common species in South East Florida. The host plant, Green Shrimp Plant (Blechum brownei) was rather abundant. They had outbreaks years when the would be super common.
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Post by trehopr1 on Feb 18, 2021 11:22:04 GMT -8
Since this thread is supposed to be about mimicry it just dawned on me that looking at these two green species; while they are an interesting comparison they may not necessarily be mimicking each other or anybody else.
In fact, both of these may be perfectly palatable to birds and other creatures.
So, I think any topic of these two perhaps needs to be put elsewhere unless somebody knows something I don't about these.
I am not even certain if these two species necessarily cross paths anywhere in their ranges !
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 18, 2021 12:14:43 GMT -8
Since this thread is supposed to be about mimicry it just dawned on me that looking at these two green species; while they are an interesting comparison they may not necessarily be mimicking each other or anybody else. In fact, both of these may be perfectly palatable to birds and other creatures. So, I think any topic of these two perhaps needs to be put elsewhere unless somebody knows something I don't about these. I am not even certain if these two species necessarily cross paths anywhere in their ranges ! Philaethria dido is a Heliconiinae feeding on passiflores and it is poisonous through cyanogenic glycosides. Both share a Central American & Amazonian Basin distribution. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 18, 2021 12:47:50 GMT -8
Mimicry is very interesting topic and can be very well observed in insect’s live. In thread of Euploea genus we discussed mimicry of E.mulciber and other species. Below is the fine example of batesian mimicry. Top: Euploea mulciber mulciber - model, left: female-Phuket, Thailand right: male-San Sai, Chiang Mai Prov., Thailand Middle: Elymnias malelas malelas - left: female- Phrao, Chiang Mai Prov., Thailand right: male- Koh Phangan, Thailand ( very rare record from south Thailand ) Bottom: Papilio paradoxa telearchus - right: male- Phin District, Savannakhet Prov., Laos Here's a female P. paradoxa I caught in NW Laos:  Adam. |
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Post by Paul K on Feb 18, 2021 13:02:59 GMT -8
Thanks Adam for the addition, I’m still missing female of P.paradoxa, in fact I’m missing many females as these are harder to find.
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