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Post by modjojojo on Jun 18, 2015 3:54:32 GMT -8
Hi everybody, a little word to update this thread.
I had very interesting exchanges with some of you. Thank you very much. I am still looking for Adelpha material, so don't hesitate to contact me,
Mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on Jun 3, 2015 16:54:50 GMT -8
Congratultions ! And now incresing the numbers of traps !
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 15:44:42 GMT -8
Hi John, thanks for the link to the topic. the cone trap I was talking about are from BugDorms. I have seen other lepidopterist using it and they captured agrias and preopona with. Do you think the cone opening must be opened for these species ? I also want to put some at ground level for bigger butterflies like Dynastor and Caligo so it seems that they won't enter these traps...
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 12:51:46 GMT -8
Yes, I kill them by thorax pressure through the net. After, it is a little bit dangerous, but you manage with your finger or a forceps to take it back when it reaches the bottom. The only problem with these IKEA traps is that the net is quite tough and sometime butterflies may be "used" a little !
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 12:25:45 GMT -8
Here it is.
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 12:24:26 GMT -8
Here is the photo. I have calculated it was no more than 2,5 euros each trap, but you needed arroud 1h30 per trap to fix it. Also after two years, I had to replace the traps. But I must say after 4 years using them, I have just bought a few traps with a cone inside. The big advantage, in this last trap, is that shy butterflies manage to enter easier (I have observed many times butterflies looking for the entrance for minutes and then flying away... what a pity when thi buterfly you see is an Agrias !).
Mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 11:41:24 GMT -8
Here's an inexpensive alternative that you may want to try if you are on a budget. Szabolcs Sáfián accidentally "invented" a very cheap and super efficient trap for fruit-feeding butterflies. "I visited an IKEA store with a friend of mine who had 4 children a week before I left for Ghana in 2005 and when I saw this toy storage net, I thought it would worth trying to trap butterflies. I made small modifications, covering the holes on its side and opening a new horizontal gap almost at the bottom, and I was most surprised when I found it unbelievable efficient. It is probably not the catch-rate higher than van Someren trap but the escape rate is much lower as the butterflies face difficulties to find the much smaller entrance gap. It is lightweight to carry in difficult terrain and far the cheapest option in the market, especially if you want to use hundreds of pieces for monitoring. Our Cameroon project uses 80 traps at the same time!!! In Cameroon we also tested in we can catch fruit-feeding moths for comparative analysis and yes, we were successful collecting a large amount of moths with it.
Hi everybody, Incredible, it is exactly the same trap method I use in FG !!! I thought I was the first having this idea I began using it in 2009 using the IKEA toy storage net. I made some modifcations (covering the openings and putting a heavy vinyle bottom) and left just a small opening at the base to let the butterfly enter. And it works quite well, it is harder for butterflies to enter but also to escape. Usally I got several moths (noctuelidae) in each trap and also a few coleoptera and cerambycidae. It is very light as it weight 250 gr (in the ultimate version) and I used to carry 20 or more when going into the forrest, I was putting them when going and getting them when coming back in the afternoon. My tip : I had a perch to put it at 7 m high with a hook. Placing the trap needs 3 minutes and taking it back the same ! and you cannot be stolen ! here i photo of my first version trap.
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Post by modjojojo on Apr 28, 2015 2:20:04 GMT -8
He is 100% a scam : in his last mail he said the Adelpha he got are from Greece and Africa.... Difficult to believe for an exclusively neotropical genus !!!!
Mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on Apr 27, 2015 16:36:14 GMT -8
I also have been contacted by this person with the same "bizarre" words... 3 or 4 hours ago, in answer to a "Want to buy" post. I asked him what species he had (I am looking for Adelpha) and he told me he had 4 sepcies (iphiclus, syma , capucinus and serpa). As you are, I am not convinced at all by this person, so I asked him some questions to know where he was from and what type of butterflies he was looking for exchanges...
Let us see !
Mohamed
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Adelpha
Apr 24, 2015 12:45:48 GMT -8
Post by modjojojo on Apr 24, 2015 12:45:48 GMT -8
Hi John, or simply A. paroeca paroeca ! Yes definetly it is (maybe) my last answer The specimen is intermédiate between these two subspecies, but as said Willmott, the width of the white bands is quite variable... And localisation speaks it self : easier to be nominal ssp than subspecies pseudodonysa when it is in Guatemala! Mohamed
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Apr 24, 2015 12:02:39 GMT -8
Post by modjojojo on Apr 24, 2015 12:02:39 GMT -8
Hi John, for me it seems to be A. paroeca pseudodonysa Salazar, 2000 described from two specimens from Colombia. Although it matches wery well the specimen epresented in the wonderful work of K. Willmot, this one has larger white bands, but this seems variable in all the serpa group (as it is in nominal A. paroeca). According to Willmot, it is a very rare species, only known at this time (2003) from type locality. It is surprisong to find it in Guatemala, after it crossed all Central America without being captured ! I hope this will help. Of course all the thanks are to K. Willmot and his work on this genus. Mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on Apr 18, 2015 8:42:19 GMT -8
Hi every body, if someone is interesting I have some interesting Parides from FG to exchange against Adelpha : - P. vertumnus vertumnus - P. lysander lysander - P. aeneas lucasi - P. chabrias ygdrasilla - P. panthonus barbotini - P. anchises anchises
I have also other butterflies from FG.
Don't hesitate to contact me !
Mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on Apr 16, 2015 14:38:03 GMT -8
Hi, thank you for your answer. I had some mail éxchanges with him but we did not manage to conclude a deal. Do you know if he is a professionnal seller or an occasional seller? thank you, Mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on Apr 15, 2015 9:02:01 GMT -8
Hello, I am in contact with this person for buying some butterflies (Adelpha from South America). I did not find him on the net. Does anyone known if he is a serious person? thank you for your help, mohamed
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Post by modjojojo on Apr 15, 2015 5:37:57 GMT -8
Hi, yes I cannot send an email primarly, but when contacted it is not a problem ! Mohamed
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