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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 18, 2021 13:01:42 GMT -8
Gosh, Paul and mothman55 your rather fortunate in Canada that's your AG department has not bothered those lovely introduced butterflies.
If they somehow established themselves over here in the US our AG department would find out about them and eradicate them with nary a thought; seems these days (over here) anything introduced is considered invasive for some reason or another !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 13:25:25 GMT -8
Yes trehopr1, I did get some of them from that collector (Norm Seaborg) who passed on. I’ve only been out west three times, so most of the western stuff was his along with some eastern material. Some of what we’ve both caught has since become protected.
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Post by mikeh on Nov 18, 2021 17:46:43 GMT -8
A few different Hypaurotis crysalus From left to right Top row: Douglas Co. CO, LA Plata Co. CO, Garfield Co. CO Middle row: Salt Lake Co. UT, Washington Co. UT, Routt Co. CO Bottom row: a couple dwarf individuals and one from Uinta Co. WY at the very northern edge of its range.  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 18, 2021 19:38:45 GMT -8
I am really enjoying this thread as all these lovely little "sparklers" are such varied and wonderous little creatures of natures waysides. I have very little to show in terms of my own "personal" captures as it seems this group of butterflies is either mostly localized (in my state) or relatively specific for habitat needs or emergence times. Thus, I can only find two common species in any summer and have only found another 3 by sheer happenstance. However, because I've always had a long appreciation for them I have spent these last 15 years acquiring a number of Lycaenidae from several sources overseas. Most come from numerous points within the European "theatre" but, some holdings are specific to Morocco. The drawer below has been shown before and yet, it remains a favorite (of my own doing) for its variety of colors and aesthetically pleasing arrangement. I may never know the names of all these lil' gems but, they sure fill one with wonder of the little things -- which often get overlooked !  Another drawer which I've never shown before features my Lycaenid "overflow" holdings (from that 1st drawer) along with SOME of my European (theatre) Nymphalidae; including some Morocco pieces. Still yet, others have been housed in some unit trays...  |
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Post by mothman55 on Nov 18, 2021 19:59:32 GMT -8
Immaculate specimens trehopr1. I assume imported specimens come mounted, right? I have had mixed results (actually more bad than good) trying to spread relaxed papered material.
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 18, 2021 20:51:31 GMT -8
Indeed mothman55,
All of the Lycaenid material has been purchased already spread. I believe all of it is either spread immediately after capture or after eclosure through breeding. Nothing of it looks as though it has ever been papered/rehydrated.
I suppose some of it could be from older collections (being parted out). I have probably hit upon 9 or 10 different sources over the years and some of them are no longer in business.
On many occasions I have seen two or three pairs offered for sale; so I closely scrutinize the photographs in choosing the best examples. Sometimes I have had to buy two (out of three) pairs just to wind up with one "keeper" pair whilst the other two are traded off. Some of my acquisitions were a one shot deal -- never seen them offered again !
It's taken 15 years to acquire that which I have but, there's just no way of getting any of it here. I would never try spreading any of this kind of small stuff from papered as (for most of us) it is a disaster with the best of intentions !
I do very good work on my own freshly dispatched specimens as I work with them immediately when I return from the field.
If I don't deal with them then bad things happen...
I wish I could find someone selling them stateside with such quality (spreading); I'd be a regular customer !
This group can be very addicting to collect even when you don't do the legwork.
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Post by 58chevy on Nov 19, 2021 8:00:13 GMT -8
Mike H, what's the best time of year to get H. crysalus in Colorado?
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Post by mikeh on Nov 19, 2021 8:50:40 GMT -8
Mike H, what's the best time of year to get H. crysalus in Colorado? Late July to early August. |
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Post by evra on Nov 19, 2021 14:03:29 GMT -8
In Arizona H. chrysalus is really hard to collect. Usually you can see them up at the top of the Gambel’s oaks attacking each other and other butterflies, but rarely do they come down low enough to net.
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 19, 2021 15:19:00 GMT -8
Sounds like another one of those Lycaenid species where there are probably more (bred) examples in collections than there are wild captured ones.
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Post by mothylator on Nov 26, 2021 17:38:44 GMT -8
Great to see some North American Lycaenids. I had no idea that P. icarus has fprmed a bridgehead into Ontario, I'll check it out in Mississauga when I'm visiting family there next year. I'm curious to see what the predominant female forms will be in first and second broods. Here's one of 12 modestly-sized drawers of some South African specimens collected between 1978-94.  The red dot is beneath 4 females and 8 male Alaena margaritacea collected 40yr ago, from the (then) only known location near Haenertsburg, in current Limpopo Province. Subsequently classified as Critically Endangered due to unique locality and risk of habitat loss, but fortunately another nearby colony in the area has been found, though both are vulnerable to local alien tree species invasion. So many taxons in South Africa seem to have a precarious existence in agonisingly few localised habitats within narrow range of altitude. Climate changes are already ravaging some sparse habitats, and human "developments" continue to reduce colony localities to perhaps non-viable (meta)populations. I really should take some pics of my several curated drawers of the uniquely South(ern) Africa genus Chrysoritis but it would probably only make you jealous ;-) Attachments:
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Post by mothylator on Nov 26, 2021 18:20:34 GMT -8
This is a series of 5 specimens of Aloeides pallida (Tite & Dickson, 1968) ssp. liversidgei (Pringle, 1994), all captured at the first occasion of discovery by Paul Liversidge, yellow dot is the Holotype and red dot being one Paratype. The remainder are so-called "topotypes", as we know may be of interest but have no strict taxonomic status.  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 26, 2021 18:43:01 GMT -8
Incredible drawer of African Lycaenidae !
Beautiful curation...
To imagine that you have 11 more drawers of African lycaenid material; absolutely incredible....
I have seen you on our sister forum and I can say that you probably have one of the most extensive African material collections of anyone/ANYWHERE !!
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Post by mothylator on Nov 26, 2021 18:48:10 GMT -8
These are some more Southern African species:  Iolaus (Stugeta) bowkeri bowkeri (Trimen, 1864) Iolaus (Stugeta) bowkeri henningi (Dickson, 1980) Iolaus (Stugeta) bowkeri tearei (Dickson, 1980) Iolaus (Argiolaus) silas silas (Westwood, 1850) Iolaus (Argiolaus) silas silarus (Druce, 1885) Iolaus (Iolaphilus) trimeni (Wallengren, 1875) And of course the contrasting, chastely beautiful, lemon & saffron-coloured Iolaus (Aphniolaus) pallene (Wallengren, 1857) |
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Post by Paul K on Nov 26, 2021 19:03:55 GMT -8
Great to see some North American Lycaenids. I had no idea that P. icarus has fprmed a bridgehead into Ontario, I'll check it out in Mississauga when I'm visiting family there next year. I'm curious to see what the predominant female forms will be in first and second broods. Here's one of 12 modestly-sized drawers of some South African specimens collected between 1978-94. The red dot is beneath 4 females and 8 male Alaena margaritacea collected 40yr ago, from the (then) only known location near Haenertsburg, in current Limpopo Province. Subsequently classified as Critically Endangered due to unique locality and risk of habitat loss, but fortunately another nearby colony in the area has been found, though both are vulnerable to local alien tree species invasion. So many taxons in South Africa seem to have a precarious existence in agonisingly few localised habitats within narrow range of altitude. Climate changes are already ravaging some sparse habitats, and human "developments" continue to reduce colony localities to perhaps non-viable (meta)populations. I really should take some pics of my several curated drawers of the uniquely South(ern) Africa genus Chrysoritis but it would probably only make you jealous ;-) if you will be here in Mississauga let me know, I know locality of the colony of P.icarus. I collected one specimen of male but i saw more in August. |
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