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Post by rayrard on Dec 20, 2021 18:53:59 GMT -8
imgur.com/a/eaJcfBmThis is a picture from a couple of years ago. I agree that a well kept classic is hard to find these days which is why I'm keeping my car stock. I do drive it year round but I take good care of it. My philosophy is that when you buy a car like that, it's meant to be driven. The entire car is wrapped in Xpel. No problems so far. I do all the maintenance myself so I know it's done right. The G35 coupe is a beautiful car, even today. I had the AWD sedan version. After that, I had a G37x coupe for about 6 years and then I traded that in for the GT-R. Always been a Nissan/Infiniti fan. However, I must say that lately, their product line has been uninspiring - I think financial woes and the loss of their former CEO who is now an international fugitive! Their daily cars aren't anything to write home about, but the sports cars still capture my attention and are good value for money. The GT-R isn't cheap, but for Ferrari level performance, it's a bargain even today. Not to mention that an oil change for anything from Ferrari, Lamborghini, or McLaren will cost you a small fortune (more than $1000). An oil change for my car done in my garage runs about $80. That navy blue color is so nice looking. I like the angular lines of that GT-R generation. I thought the first gen G35 got the design right but the more rounded edges of the G37 ruined the look in my opinion. I got compliments on the G35 up until this year when I traded it in. People told me that it could go up in value since it was stock, but the car was vomiting oil and had 210K on the odometer. She still looked great on the outside but the internals were beginning to fall apart. It was still on the original tranny. I now have a vehicle more in line with my hobbies (a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek), but I will miss taking a RWD sports couple on dirt roads while the rednecks in pickups wondered what the hell I'm doing. I have no complaints about my experience with my Infiniti regardless of the direction they are heading now.
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Post by eurytides on Dec 21, 2021 6:13:10 GMT -8
Thanks rayrard. My last 3 cars have been blue. Reminds me of morpho butterflies because of the different shades it takes on depending on viewing angle. You should check out "structural blue" by Lexus.
When the G37 came out, I didn't like it very much either, but over time, it grew on me. The thing about cars going up in value after a few decades is that they are usually low mileage. If you've gotten 210K miles out of it, there's no way you're going to sell it for profit. The car served its purpose well and you got very good value out of it. I'm not sure how long I will keep my car, but at the rate I'm going, even after 20 years, it will probably have less than 60K miles. I like Infiniti and I think they have well engineered cars that provide good value for money. It's just that the last few years, their product line seems to have stagnated. The products are still good, but year after year, the cars will remain almost exactly the same with no major updates whereas other manufacturers will introduce new redesigns every 6-7 years.
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Post by exoticimports on Dec 21, 2021 7:25:23 GMT -8
I'm a Toyota buyer. I've had several Nissan, and like the performance of the current Nissans. That said, I was none too happy that the 1990s+ Nissans had (have?) a known problem busting bolts due to differentials in metals and warping of the exhaust headers. Friggin' Nissan knew there was a problem, but for at least a decade refused to change the design, or cover repair costs. Beyond that, the better Toyotas have timing chains, while Nissans have timing belts, and that's $1000 job at 90k miles. No thanks.
Probably the best passenger auto ever is the 2009 Acura TL SH-AWD. Introduced in 2009 as competition for Cadillac, it has Cadillac comfort and style, but is bullet proof. The 307 (so they said, probably more) HP naturally aspirated 6 pulls like crazy at the low end, and just gains steam as RPM rise. Between the AWD and meaty tires, the car sticks so well that it's boring- or scary depending on frame of reference. I can barely get it to squeal the tires on the offramp, and that's at a speed that's inappropriate. It's a fabulous highway vehicle.
I do some driving of rental cars for work, so get to try a bunch of different vehicles. The Armada I took on a 12 hour trip through snowstorms was horrible. What idiot thought to make a 2WD giant SUV with "traction control" and no AWD? And the "traction control" didn't work for crap. Horrible vehicle in the snow. The Sentra got great gas mileage, but is uncomfortable after a few hours. The Jeep Compass is the biggest POS I've ever used. The Altima is a nice highway car (but not even in the same ballpark as the 2009 Acura TL SH-AWD.) I recently had a Dodge Charger and was absolutely impressed- comfortable, good visibility, plenty of power, great driving feedback. I don't think a Charger will live 200k miles, but for a rental it was awesome.
Chuck
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Post by eurytides on Dec 21, 2021 8:50:59 GMT -8
Chuck, I have not had the chance to try out as many cars in my life as you. Generally though, I think cars made in the UK and US have reliability issues and I'm generally very wary. There are exceptions of course, but the burden of proof is on them. For reliability, other than Porsche, I think Japanese companies are hard to beat. Lexus/Toyota/Honda/Acura all seem very good overall. Nissan is probably a tier below but still pretty good. I haven't had issues with them so far, but then again, I don't put on many miles.
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Post by foxxdoc on Dec 21, 2021 10:18:24 GMT -8
Car guy here; 1965 1/2 289 mustang 2 plus 2 Triumph TR 6 3 corvettes ; 1974 454 , Mid 90 's Lemon. 2000 gorgeous . However none could carry many bails of hay. I drive Pick Ups now. Masserati Ghabli. total junk 1967 XKE Jag 2 plus 2 also gorgeous but always broken. donated it to the RotaryClub Auction. afraid somebody I knew would buy it. 1998 Jag red orange 4 door w Ansa exhaust. great car but couldn"t carry hay.
best buy for the buck; my son's 1995 Jeep Wrangler.
BEST
TOM
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Post by eurytides on Dec 21, 2021 10:52:05 GMT -8
Agree on the Maserati. For the money, that thing is atrocious.
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Post by panacanthus on Dec 22, 2021 0:44:41 GMT -8
That's a wonderful find Bill! Congratulations! You brought back many memories. This was my "baby" at one time. I bought it new in 1994 and it was my daily driver and only car for 11 years. Then I decided I needed something more practical! I still miss it very much. Should have held on to that car! Eurytides - that GT-R sounds very nice! (Update) - I just saw the link for the photo! WOW! Very nice indeed! I completely agree with what you said that it's meant to be driven. Drive it and enjoy it - you only live once! I'm so glad I have the memories I do from my Supra being a daily driver. I'll probably never own a car like that again. I currently have a 2021 Blizzard Pearl 4Runner Limited and I LOVE it, but it's not a sports car lol! Toyota Supra twin turbo (only small modifications to bring the horsepower to approx. 460 - a good number back then!)
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Post by yorky on Dec 22, 2021 3:51:01 GMT -8
While I don't have any expensive cars now preferring to keep my money in the bank I do enjoy working on my own cars and haven't taken a car to a garage or mechanic for over 20 years. This is not just to save money, I genuinely believe that I do a better job because it is my car so genuine parts and fluids are used to ensure that it is in top mechanical condition. It is serviced meticulously and there is very little that I won't have a go at, the only problem is that now I'm nearly 60 I feel it for a few days afterwards. Last summer I replaced the clutch and brake servo, combined the garage wanted £700 for both jobs. Doing it myself the clutch cost £40 and a second hand servo £30, they have both been perfect ever since. I would encourage anyone to buy a decent set of tools and learn how to work on your own car. I have a well paid proffesion for my day job but the ability to be your own mechanic is a skill that is in high demand, saves a mountain of money and stops you being ripped off by garages and dealers.
I keep my cars for years, pay very little for them and I have never failed to reach a destination.
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Post by exoticimports on Dec 22, 2021 4:54:16 GMT -8
panacanthus- you sold a Supra? That's like selling O. alexandrae. I like my 4Runners, we have to run snow tires into April because of the "seasonal" (=closed) roads we frequent. Never got stuck, though came close. I'd still prefer if Toyota put a stick in the things. yorky- do you have anything with Lucas Electrics, and do you know how to release the magic black smoke? I'm glad Bill started this, it's a nice distraction. Gotta say I was rather surprised that eurytides has such a supercar- in Canada! Chuck
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Post by eurytides on Dec 22, 2021 5:53:39 GMT -8
Imgur seems to be down right now, so I'll have to post pictures later. Panacanthus - man, a supra!! That is indeed a rare sight now, especially one in such good condition. I'm glad you got to enjoy such an iconic car. 460hp back then was Ferrari beating! I am careful with my car but I also try to use it as much as I can, in any weather. It's my first, only, and probably last "dream car." My wife says I only get one in my lifetime... All the more reason to enjoy it and keep up with the maintenance haha. Yorky - agree completely. I know there are good garages and good mechanics, but they are rare. The dealers are under pressure to make money and do jobs fast(er), so I just don't want to take chances. Every time I come back from the dealer for service, there are small scratches or knicks on the wheels or whatever, and I hate that. I'm a perfectionist with butterflies and cars. Dealers also tend to over-torque absolutely everything. Do these people not have a torque wrench in the entire building? I'm just one guy and I have 3! So I started to do these jobs myself. The tools cost a lot of money to begin with but the money you save makes it a good investment in the long run. Besides, these days everything is on the internet! I was able to locate the service manual for my car, the one that the mechanics use, and it outlines every step in how to maintain or disassemble components of the car. You can find part numbers, torque specs, everything! You can also save money buying OEM car parts online instead of at the dealership. I don't have the big machines to do stuff like tire mounting or alignment, but everything else, you can do at home if you want to invest in the time. It's very satisfying to learn new skills like that and you get a fantastic sense of accomplishment and self sufficiency. You also get to know the inner workings of your car intimately. There are so many videos on Youtube now on how to do basic car maintenance on just about every model that it's really not that hard to learn. Chuck - the GT-R is indeed rare up here. I've seen fewer than 10 on the road in my entire life. Over the past 10 years, on average, in Canada, fewer than 100 GT-Rs are sold every year. A small fraction of those are daily driven cars year round, and I'm one of those.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 6:48:28 GMT -8
Panacanthus…….she’s gorgeous. I have a buddy who is crazy abt Supras. Yorky…….I agree that doing one’s own work is best and both enjoyable and rewarding. I don’t have the expertise to do many of the needed things, but I also have a fantastic mechanic who treats me great and works on my car like it’s his own. I do as much as I can so long that I’m doing it right. Chuck……while I do indeed love the bugs, getting this started is good for me too. One of the things abt cars is I so love to chat w other enthusiasts whether it be here or at car shows. It’s interesting how certain makes and models get adored by different guys. My good friend Eric is crazy abt MGs. In fact, his picking one up years ago kinda rekindled my bucket list craving to drive a ZX. Now that I have two, I’m done w acquisitions and am focusing on taking care of and driving the cars I’ve dreamt abt for decades. Love the pics guys.
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Post by exoticimports on Dec 22, 2021 7:25:09 GMT -8
I almost bought an MG, then logic and reason stepped in. My 1987 Pontiac Firebird, built during the Metric Scare, had both metric and inch fasteners all over. It was a nightmare to work on. The BMW is easy- 8mm, 10mm, 13mm. Done. Hey, anyone seen my 10mm sockets? I'd love a Gen I RX7, should have bought one when they were all $2200. Then almost bought a Gen II GTU-S (very rare) but there was no title. Then almost bought a Gen III, which I'm glad I didn't because they all blowed up. This one was great, not pretty, a real momentum car. At Watkins Glen I passed a Dodge Viper, he wasn't happy. But she had to go, the baby seat didn't fit.
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Post by yorky on Dec 22, 2021 7:29:38 GMT -8
Fortunately Chuck I haven't driven anything with Lucas electrics for many years but I have fallen foul of them in the past.
I see we are of the same mind eurytides. I get tired of hearing my friends bleat long and loud about how they keep getting ripped off by dealers who charge a fortune for basic servicing, do a shoddy job and don't replace what parts they should or do a poor job of repairs. A friend of mine paid £900 to a Mercedes dealer to replace bottom suspension wishbones and do a "full service " including oil, oil filter, air filter and fuel filter, all basic jobs, I could have done it all for less than a quarter of the price but he wanted a "stamp in the book" to retain the cars future value. Dealers play on this to keep customers and in return they have their pants pulled down time and time again. A lot of people don't have the aptitude to tackle more complicated jobs such as timing belts but anyone and I mean anyone can learn how to do a basic service, brakes,change a thermostat, an exhaust pipe, it's just nuts and bolts.
I recently cashed in 2 private pensions. I worked underground as a coal miner for many years before they closed all of the mines and then as a postal worker, both of which came with a generous pension before doing a complete about face and training to do the job I now love. Many of my friends who are lovely people don't know what it means to live within your means suggested that I blow the lot on some soulless white goods, modern day Audi or Mercedes as "you only live once". While I agree somewhat with that statement modern cars just don't do it for me and I'd rather have something older that I can work on myself without having to run to the dealer every 5 minutes so that he can charge me a fortune to plug it in to the latest diagnostic machine.I also like adding to my entomological collection and would rather treat myself to rare bugs than line some greasy dealers pocket with my hard earned.
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Post by exoticimports on Dec 22, 2021 8:37:51 GMT -8
Doing your own work on modern vehicles is almost impossible- starters buried under intake manifolds, exhaust headers that require the subframe to be dropped and then the engine, etc. Even dealers can't fix them- I know of numerous BMW 7 series that suffer "limp mode" that no matter how many times they go into the shop, even the factory-certified experts can't fix. You can buy a nice mid-2000s BMW 3 series here for $2500, but that little light is on- meaning another $2500 for a catalytic converter. I don't get the new vehicle thing. Typical American suburbanites blow $600-$800/month for auto payments, and typically have two of them. That's the monthly payment on a house. And then the only other thing they own is a set of golf clubs and a big TV. Of course, that $600/$800 gets you a generic Audi, Mercedes, or whatever- not a top performance vehicle...just a pedestrian piece boredom mobile. Kudos to Eurytides for blowing big bucks- that money now will get you a Tahoe or the GT-R, I'd much rather have the GT-R! Gimme $50k and I'll buy a used 911, not a new Hyundai SUV. Bill, what are the old Datsuns going for these days? Of course, we haven't even touch the real expensive, high maintenance topic...
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Post by rayrard on Dec 22, 2021 8:43:58 GMT -8
That's a wonderful find Bill! Congratulations! You brought back many memories. This was my "baby" at one time. I bought it new in 1994 and it was my daily driver and only car for 11 years. Then I decided I needed something more practical! I still miss it very much. Should have held on to that car! Eurytides - that GT-R sounds very nice! (Update) - I just saw the link for the photo! WOW! Very nice indeed! I completely agree with what you said that it's meant to be driven. Drive it and enjoy it - you only live once! I'm so glad I have the memories I do from my Supra being a daily driver. I'll probably never own a car like that again. I currently have a 2021 Blizzard Pearl 4Runner Limited and I LOVE it, but it's not a sports car lol! Toyota Supra twin turbo (only small modifications to bring the horsepower to approx. 460 - a good number back then!) Man, a stock 90's Supra! Such a nice looking car. Those are going up in value where selling a <100K miles Supra that has small or no modifications will get you 50K+ nowadays.
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