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Post by wolf on Aug 17, 2011 11:33:57 GMT -8
How's the general regulation? total ban? export permit and/or collecting permit? Anyone been there? share experiences please! Thanks
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Post by wingedwishes on Aug 17, 2011 12:16:30 GMT -8
Forget it. The corruption in the regulators there is awful. I have no first hand experience though. I have had it related to me by more than one person that the permit is not issued without a gift of a vehicle. I have a friend who wanted to have the people in his village collect in exchange for school supplies but was stopped. Again - only 2nd person but I think it is realistic to suspect this type of behavior is present.
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Post by wolf on Aug 19, 2011 6:18:26 GMT -8
point taken! Thanks Anyone else has some stuff/experiences they want to share? Anyone know of any collectors there or someone else with knowledge that might arrange som guided trips etc?
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Post by wolf on Aug 27, 2011 2:53:36 GMT -8
BUMP! comon guys, anyone?
Does some of you know who/where to contact to apply for permit?
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Post by lepidofrance on Aug 27, 2011 6:15:15 GMT -8
1. Go into the forest ; when alone, 2. take your collapsible net butterfly and open it 3. Have always on you a photo camera ; if asked by some authority what you are doing, let answer you are taking pictures and that, sometimes, you need the net to approach the butterfly. Nowhere in the world, butterfly picturing is prohibited. 4. Before getting out the country, insert your samples into a parcel between books or souvenirs. On the label, write "souvenirs" and post it to your own adress or to a friend adress. Of course, in that kind of countries where butterfly collecting is banned, never turn on a bulb for night collecting !
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Post by lepidofrance on Aug 27, 2011 6:25:13 GMT -8
About collapsible net : www.bioquip.com/Search/DispProduct.asp?pid=7115CPVery, very useful ! Using Collapsible to Professional Series Net Handle Adapter www.bioquip.com/Search/DispProduct.asp?pid=7300AYou can fix the collapsible net on one, two or three handles. Two handles could be used as a walking stick in mountaneous areas ! So, when going on in prohibition countries, you have in hand your walking stick and in the pocket or bag your collapsible net. Two seconds only for fixing the net on the handle ! Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Aug 27, 2011 6:28:50 GMT -8
hehe thanks for answer. I allready have a collapsible net Do you have a solution if they ask to check my backpack, and they find dead specimens?
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Post by lepidofrance on Aug 27, 2011 6:48:17 GMT -8
"if they ask to check my backpack, and they find dead specimens?" - on the field, my collected samples are not in my backpack. The papered specimens are inserted in a triangular specific box (sold in Roppon Ashi, Tokyo - see their website). This box is tied around my waist with a belt. If I see approaching the inquisitors, two seconds are enough for me to hide the box in a bush. It would be more difficult in the Sahara or in the Atacama where there are few shrubs but no butterfly! Anyway, my specimens are kept alive (until I return to the lodge). In case of control, I affirm that I have captured to photograph them in a suitable location before releasing them! For the triangular box : kawamo.co.jp/roppon-ashi/sub256.htmIf we want to perfect the system, we can have an isothermic bottle in his bag with ice inside. Thus, we can proceed to face the inquisitors the following demonstration: place the butterfly living in the ice chamber, the butterfly becomes inert, it is then easy to photograph for several minutes. It heats up and then flies away. What do we have then committed as an illegal act? Process well known photographers! Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Aug 27, 2011 10:10:43 GMT -8
nice... i see u are experienced It's nice that someone has the balls to admit it atleast About walking the forests alone, i wont do that. But i just got som nice info from another friend of mine of a person who might do guided trips there, so this is looking good so far ;P Thanks again for info and tips
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Post by downundermoths on Aug 27, 2011 14:00:41 GMT -8
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Post by lepidofrance on Aug 28, 2011 1:00:38 GMT -8
Today, you must become naughty! In many countries (South America, India, China, Palawan, etc..) collecting butterflies is now banned (supposedly to preserve the species), while deforestation continues at high speed, resulting in the disappearance of species that scientists have not had time to discover and describe. These prohibitions are most often done by the bureaucrats who give themselves good conscience or environmentalists who know nothing in butterflies. This is also often described in this forum and should denounce the alliance between bureaucrats and environmentalists who comes at the expense of scientists. For South America, will be compared, for example, Brazil, on one side, where hunting butterfly is prohibited and where the forest is reduced to a trickle and, on the other side, French Guiana where collection of butterflies is not banned and where the forest is almost intact! I just came back from Sabah. In this country, over 40% of the primary forest was destroyed for palm oil! You can drive hundreds of km in seeing that oil palm. The pieces of forest that remain have become parks or reserves where collection of butterflies is prohibited! This time with the necessary authorizations and experienced guides, I could study some transects: - Planting of palm oil: less than a dozen species very common and ubiquitous - Edge of the forest: more than 25 species of interest in one hour. However, the presence from time to time of two or three entomologists "accredited" is not sufficient to meet all the richness of biodiversity. Attachments:
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Post by wollastoni on Aug 29, 2011 3:01:38 GMT -8
I love also the "I am studying mosquitos" answer while you are netting in the tropic. Nobody will complain...
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Post by wingedwishes on Aug 29, 2011 3:13:24 GMT -8
That is a great one. Have a jar of mosquitos and offer to open it and [glow=red,2,300]release them![/glow]
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Post by bichos on Sept 10, 2011 21:19:41 GMT -8
It is really sad to hear what is going on in Sabah, some of my favourite species in the whole wide world occur there, but its no different to what most developed countries have already done: Utilised their 'natural resources'.
You can't stop progress.
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 12, 2011 0:15:29 GMT -8
It is not "progress"... it is parasitism...
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