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Post by africaone on Jan 27, 2012 1:36:06 GMT -8
and what are your argments ? You just made a copy / paste of a table.
In 2 hours and 2 posts (just the time to download the paper and read it quickly) you change your advice (first Viridixes a subgenus for eupale, in the second it is Eriboea ....) ! You experience is just based on what you read following cirsumtances ... and in Charaxinae I suppose you have absolute no experience !
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 1:53:40 GMT -8
Oh...,yeeeeah,only YOU have the absolute experience, 'mr. African Science', -you are SO egomaniac  . Anyone interested,can read in detail the very interesting(and very fresh ,-1 year newer than yours) work on the article above,and see all molecular proofs. For me,either Eriboea or Viridixes,is the same,as long as they are used as SUBGENUSES of Charaxes (I have no problem with the name). BUT,the current systematics in Charaxes(including your Proposition of Viridixes as a separate genus) do NOT reflect the phylogeny(as proved by the authors of this work) ! |
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Post by africaone on Jan 27, 2012 2:22:31 GMT -8
no surprise ! just words and insults, one of your real competence ... you defend a position without any idea on the question, nor experience, nor anything .....  I don't catch only Charaxes with traps ;D |
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 2:41:15 GMT -8
I well-stated with scientific evidence my opinion here. YOU are 'of nothing' for me. Plus, the authors of this fine work provide it FOR FREE online, while you DON'T EVER PROVIDE ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE WITHOUT MONEY (this is well-known ). And of course,you get READY specimens,sent to you from Africa (this as answer to what you said that you don't only collect Charaxes with traps),which you sell together with your papers. By the way,what you say is in contrary.. You propose the members of the eupale group to be under a separate genus (Viridixes),while they are much more similar to the rest Charaxes than are the Agrias to Prepona (great obvious differences between Agrias and Prepona !) ,-and you think that Agrias and Prepona should be under the same genus ? (lol). You're a very alazonic and egomaniac creature,unfortunately. I have much better things to do than talking to a wall ,-there is no point ,-so keep rocking ! |
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Post by africaone on Jan 27, 2012 3:26:16 GMT -8
I don't intend to make any scientific discussion with you !
about your stupid discussion, can you tell me please what means this wonderfull sentence "while you DON'T EVER PROVIDE ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE WITHOUT MONEY (this is well-known )"
well known why who ?
what is the link between money and scientific evidence you spoke about ?
etc ....
just calumny as usual ! and as usual speaking about what you don't know (just repeat slander .... You are lucky I don't attack you before the law ! I prefer to let you with your stupid posts)
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 3:37:43 GMT -8
Suck it,stupid. This is the truth and hurts you. I collect insects myself since the age of 5 and love this hobby-science.
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Post by africaone on Jan 27, 2012 3:46:01 GMT -8
hurted by you stupid comments and slanders, let me laugh  you are pathetic ! you are in the traps of your comments and you don't realize it ! |
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 4:04:49 GMT -8
hurted by you stupid comments and slanders, let me laugh you are pathetic ! you are in the traps of your comments and you don't realize it ! -I'd suggest you to shut up and to not challenge further persons that you can't manage, if you don't like to be even more ridiculed and seem even more immature at the age of your 50-55 years. |
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Post by africaone on Jan 27, 2012 4:10:51 GMT -8
I have to say .... thanks thanos ! better than what I hopped ! |
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 4:26:53 GMT -8
YOU drove the discussion to this level. You asked me to tell my scientific arguments. I did it with scientific evidence(molecular evidence which suggests certain systematics -shown above- which reflect the phylogeny of Charaxes), but you were ironic -as usualy- cause you sadly don't respect the other and are alazonic.
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Post by africaone on Jan 27, 2012 4:47:46 GMT -8
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 27, 2012 5:09:09 GMT -8
By the way, there is no such word as "subgenuses", it's subgenera, please!
Adam.
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 5:55:57 GMT -8
africaone,you're ignored. No,Adam,you are wrong. In english grammar it is : 'genus' ,and the plural is : 'genera' OR 'genuses' ! Check the dictionary: www.yourdictionary.com/genuses So,as there is 'genuses' as plural of 'genus', there is of course 'subgenuses' as plural of 'subgenus'. In greek,where this word comes from, it is 'genos' ,and plural 'geni' . |
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Post by jshuey on Jan 27, 2012 6:17:27 GMT -8
First - these are alway fun discussions. Anytime you can piss off the angry greek is cool with me! At some point I figure he'll get so mad that he will find some other grpup to antanogize. Second, I comment on Adam's comment - By the way, there is no such word as "subgenuses", it's subgenera, please! While Adam is certainly correct - there are "editors" in non-science world that are trying to push the weird plural of genus as "genuses" on the basis that this is more understandable to the general public. If you read Nabokov's Blues by Kurt Johnson (which is a surprisingly good book) you will see this all through it. I asked Kurt about this, and he said it was just one of those things that the editors would not budge on. I've seen it in a couple of other books since then. To me it’s amazing that an editor would knowingly bastardize the English Language (more than it already is…). Shuey |
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Post by thanos on Jan 27, 2012 6:28:25 GMT -8
I'm proud of the fact that the greek language is so strong and rich, -really a language with identity-, and not bastardised/having many foreign stolen words like the english does..(many words taken from the greek language) |
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