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Post by africaone on Feb 11, 2012 2:48:17 GMT -8
for Belgian ebay this page is pages.befr.ebay.be/help/policies/wildlife.htmlthere is probably a simlar page in english on ebay.com Claude, Bern convention must be included by any member of EU and all the countries that asked to be included. |
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 11, 2012 3:06:06 GMT -8
You mean this: pages.ebay.com/help/policies/wildlife.htmlPlease note that ebay.be and the other European domains of eBay are part of eBay Europe S.à r.l. which is located in Luxembourg thus Luxembourgish law applies as far as my knowledge goes. I have yet not found out if Luxembourg would prosecute a specimen legally caught in another part of the world which is protected in Luxembourg itself. Now the whole law story goes above my knowledge and understanding. Edit: Yes it should be included but unfortunately not all of them have done so. If you look at for example German laws there is no law named "Berne Convention whatever", but there is a National law for the protection of Nature from 1982 that got written after Berne Convention to include the laws that the threaty asked for. How countries deal with Berne Convention is made on national level and not EU level (yet?). Unless I am totally mistaken here. |
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Post by runear on Feb 11, 2012 4:52:54 GMT -8
Claude, Bern convention must be included by any member of EU and all the countries that asked to be included. As I stated above, EU hasn't even included the Bern convention in it's own environmental legislation ( annex A list ) - correct me if I'm wrong... The Bern convention by itself has no executive power - it must be enforced by laws made by it's members. It's very much like the situation for the Kyoto Protocol. Many nations ( also the EU ) have signed the treaty - however I believe the majority of them has huge problems reaching their promised objectives.. Each country has to make laws incorporating the Bern convention, but to my knowledge no nation has included 100% of this convention. The legal terms and priority of these laws do also vary in a high degree across the membering nations. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 14:29:50 GMT -8
www.insectsale.com have a full cites list of appendices 1,2 & 3 from December 2011 onwards. cerdo isn't on there. satanas is and colophon sp of S Africa also
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Post by Cassida on Feb 15, 2012 15:13:28 GMT -8
All these stupid laws have been crafted by brainless pencil pushers, with a leftwing agenda that thinks governments should control the masses... Collecting has never harmed any insect population. Just ask Brazil, they go overbroad to police entomologists, but allows million of hectares of virgin rainforest to be razed, leaving wastelands... John  Yes, that is unfortunatelly true!!! By the way - 99% of European entomologists have a lot of protected insects in their collections! I mean - it is OK. Insect is not mammal,... And for example - there is a lot of C. cerdo, Lucanus cervus atc. in Europe. But it must be protected, because it is a big and nice insect  ;D This is a problem: amazonwatch.org/work/belo-monte-dam  (no buying beetles on eBay).  |
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Post by panzerman on Feb 15, 2012 17:47:00 GMT -8
The Bern Convention, Kyoto Protocol are examples of leftist, poltically correct utter nonsense. Entomologists, collectors have never caused the extinction on any butterfly, moth, beetle sp., ssp. This is mostly the result of poor management in Third World Countries, again Brazil the most obvious in deforestation of the Amazonian rainforests. Same for the Kyoto deal, it was just a "feel good" idea worked out by left leaning intellectuals, who saw this as a way to punish the West and hand billions of euros, dollars too China, India, Brazil, Russia...in doing so, they drove companies to relocate in these new super emerging Countries, for cheaper labour costs, no environmental safeguards, and as a result Europe, USA are on the verge of economic castrophe...
John
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Post by Chris Grinter on Feb 15, 2012 20:17:06 GMT -8
The Bern Convention, Kyoto Protocol are examples of leftist, poltically correct utter nonsense. Entomologists, collectors have never caused the extinction on any butterfly, moth, beetle sp., ssp. This is mostly the result of poor management in Third World Countries, again Brazil the most obvious in deforestation of the Amazonian rainforests. Same for the Kyoto deal, it was just a "feel good" idea worked out by left leaning intellectuals, who saw this as a way to punish the West and hand billions of euros, dollars too China, India, Brazil, Russia...in doing so, they drove companies to relocate in these new super emerging Countries, for cheaper labour costs, no environmental safeguards, and as a result Europe, USA are on the verge of economic castrophe... John Phew, getting pretty tangential here with this political rant. I think we can all agree that deforestation is the leading cause of extinctions in all countries (not just the third world). Let's stick to topics related to C. cerdo...or move to the porch light. |
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