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Post by ornithoptera on Jan 30, 2011 21:26:08 GMT -8
Just Curios About the Ornithoptera Allotei Female... Anyone have that butterflies in collection? THANKS Theophilus  |
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vwman
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Post by vwman on Jan 31, 2011 14:40:15 GMT -8
Being that it's a hybrid, I would think someone out that has tried to create one especially considering how many Ornithoptera hybrids I've seen show up over the past few years.
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Post by maliciousinchworm on Jan 31, 2011 16:10:44 GMT -8
I read once that female hybrids do have problems to eclode from their pupae. If I remember correctly it passed a lot of time until someone got the first Actias luna x Graellsia isabelae. But I may be wrong! I´m talking about blurry memories!
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Post by ornithoptera on Jan 31, 2011 20:22:02 GMT -8
Hi
Thanks for the replied
Anyone have Ornithoptera Allotei female pictures?
Theophilus
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Post by bartekgoldyn on Feb 1, 2011 1:32:46 GMT -8
From Haugum and Lows Monograph.
"There are no remarkable characters by witch the so called allotei female differs form that of urvillianus, save for absence of red on the thorax. The color and the pattern represent no great deviation form urvillianus, and the most notable differences exists in the HW; the pale band is broader in allotei, as if combining the inner, discal position of the pale areas from victoriae with the more distal position of the band form urvillianus. The central, dark spots within the pale areas are larger than in urvillianus but smaller than in victoriae, and their shape is also intermediate.
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Post by krupten on Feb 1, 2011 5:33:36 GMT -8
There have been a number of females of allotei bred out over the year and pictures are in of course Haugum but also D'Abrera - etc. I know recently a couple ended up in europe. I am also not keen about the hybrids of Ornithoptera that have shown up - many are hand pairings forced by the locals who are now demanding a fortune for specimens with NO SCIENTIFIC VALUE. Non sympatric hybrids have little to no scientific value . If you like - I do have pics of the females albeit not mounted - I can send those to you if you want. Contact me off line - Cheers Greg
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Post by africaone on Feb 1, 2011 5:59:48 GMT -8
I am curious to know  how many Ornithoptera collectors do it for scientific research !! As (I think !) many of them collect such treasure for they beauty, rarity and value and then ... why not for hybrid even not natural ?  You can compare it to orchid's collector ! Thierry |
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Post by myko61 on Feb 1, 2011 11:58:48 GMT -8
I obtained this photo from the internet. I had to reduce the size so it would fit. Hope it turns out O.K. Photo shows male and female O. allotei. Norm Attachments:
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Post by ornithoptera on Feb 6, 2011 17:39:21 GMT -8
Extremely nice female
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Post by ornithoptera on Feb 6, 2011 17:42:10 GMT -8
Hi
Thanks for the pictures
Extremely nice female
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Post by rumina on Nov 14, 2013 12:50:34 GMT -8
an extremely nice and bright female. normally the female are very dark grey.
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Post by mygos on Nov 15, 2013 1:23:02 GMT -8
I obtained this photo from the internet. I had to reduce the size so it would fit. Hope it turns out O.K. Photo shows male and female O. allotei. Norm Did you had the authorisation from the original photographer from the web site ?  A+, Michel |
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Post by aureusbutterflies on Nov 15, 2013 2:02:18 GMT -8
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Post by albertofracasso on Nov 16, 2013 4:00:10 GMT -8
This hybrid is from sympatric species!!! Rarely is natural, so confused with a new species, sometimes forced by humans. Why no scientific value, like all other specimens, in a butterfly collection? Females ( and males) are quite variable. I can send some nice pictures
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Post by albertofracasso on Nov 16, 2013 6:35:20 GMT -8
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how many Ornithoptera collectors do it for scientific research !!
