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Post by panzerman on Dec 13, 2012 13:30:37 GMT -8
Rod Parrott has a pair in his collection, they came from Schmitt collection. The selling price was out of this world!
John
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 14, 2012 3:20:37 GMT -8
Delias from Huon Peninsular are also nearly absent in collection.
For example, Delias leucias is common in collections, but the ssp Delias leucias huonensis is known for less than 5 specimens in collection !
I conclude that this part of PNG has been badly explored by entomologists, that could explain why flavidior is also so rare in collection.
I had the chance to see some chimaera flying in mountains around Wamena.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 4:11:19 GMT -8
Huon Peninsula might be badly explored by foreign entomologists, but if we take into account that for example Lae is just dozens of kilometers away, it really is hard to understand why. I know about a few locals walking for two or three days into the most remote collecting areas in the mountains and haven't ever collected a flavidior.
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 14, 2012 4:37:50 GMT -8
If locals with entomological knowledge really went to Huon Peninsular mountains to collect, there would have been more flavidior offered. It's a big visible lep, caterpillars and pupaes are easy to spot and so on...
Even during the IFTA time, there was no stock from Huon Peninsular mountains (even common species like Delias leucias huonensis).
There could be many reasons why locals don't want to go in the mountains. (Coastal tribes like in Lae are often very different from those in the mountains, difficult access, military area...).
Greg or Bazz may be able to tell us more about Huon Peninsula.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 5:03:30 GMT -8
You are right, the guys in Lae really dont know much about, and they always told me it was a dangerous task, but they surely explored the area, also they often went to the Highlands (obviously much more popular area to collect)
IFTA closed, partly because many collectors wouldn't go to collect as they should, some just quited, some would collect just as they though it was "just about enough", some always collected in the same area, not where they were sent too, I am not surprised that stuff from the most remote areas never came up much. (obviously there were other reasons why it closed, and those were bureaucratic ones)
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Post by aureusbutterflies on Dec 14, 2012 5:55:13 GMT -8
Hi! Here are also some "nice" birdwings.... Attachments:
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Post by aureusbutterflies on Dec 14, 2012 5:56:41 GMT -8
... and one more....  Attachments:
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Post by nomad on Dec 14, 2012 8:24:14 GMT -8
 aureusbutterflies Stunning. Peter
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 14, 2012 8:27:06 GMT -8
This blue victoriae is crazy !!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 9:06:13 GMT -8
that blue O. victoriae epiphanes just amazing!!
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Post by bartekgoldyn on Dec 14, 2012 16:15:06 GMT -8
Guys, dont get me wrong, but you do realize that these blues are probably artificial?
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Post by thanos on Dec 14, 2012 16:54:01 GMT -8
A such blue color variation can happen in nature..but extremely rarely...For sure almost all of the 'blues' offered are artificially made with UV...This is why I'd never buy such specimens (which sell for crazy prices also btw). However, they are really stunning to see.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 18:30:29 GMT -8
As Thanos stated, blue forms can and do occur in nature.
I am sure there are blue victorae as well, even though they might be extremely rare, so far I had never seen a real blue victoriae (except maybe for v. rubianus), they all present the discolored abdomen.
And they certainly do not assume a 'color pattern" like the green and blue one above in nature.
If you ask me, would I spend over a thousand dollars on it? I certainly wouldn't
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Post by jaume on Dec 15, 2012 1:49:30 GMT -8
Some interesting ornithoptera from my collection..... Nominate ssp. PARADISEA PARADISEA Jaume Attachments:
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Post by jaume on Dec 15, 2012 1:51:18 GMT -8
Rarely seen PRIAMUS BOISDUVALII from Woodlark Island. Ex Straatman specimen. Jaume Attachments:
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