jaume
Full Member
Posts: 210
|
Post by jaume on Dec 15, 2012 1:53:03 GMT -8
Another rare ssp: PRIAMUS MIOKENSIS from Mioko Island Jaume Attachments:
|
|
|
|
jaume
Full Member
Posts: 210
|
Post by jaume on Dec 15, 2012 1:55:15 GMT -8
A huge PRIAMUS URVILLIANUS from New Ireland. Jaume Attachments:
|
|
|
|
Post by nomad on Dec 15, 2012 2:02:12 GMT -8
 Very nice and rare specimens jaume What is the data and date on your paradisea paradisea? I think I can make out the Finisterre mountains on your label. Specimens from the east of the nominate paradisea range seem to closely approach borchi. From your specimen, borchi seems to be just a local form of the nominate. Peter
|
|
jaume
Full Member
Posts: 210
|
Post by jaume on Dec 15, 2012 10:13:56 GMT -8
Thank you Peter,
the data of the paradisea paradisea is: Mumong / Finisterre Mts / PNG / november 1973 / R.Straatman leg
JAUME
|
|
|
|
Post by johnnyboy on Dec 16, 2012 5:13:22 GMT -8
I kept this O. v. reginae in a display case, in full light, for about 15 years. I noticed the green gradually becoming bluer year on year, obviously because of the action of UV from sunlight. The abdomen also gradually became more and more bleached. I agree that it is more than likely that the blue ornithoptera types have been deliberately exposed to UV to create their colour, hence the bleached abdomens. Johnny Attachments:
|
|
|
|
Post by timmsyrj on Dec 17, 2012 9:21:44 GMT -8
The blue forms of Victoriae are naturally occuring forms i believe..
The first being Rubianus form Niclasi and the second Epiphanes f Brossardi, probably only came about through breeding or maybe the breeding experiments crossing victoriae with urvilleanus to create Allotei.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post by bartekgoldyn on Dec 17, 2012 11:03:47 GMT -8
Has anyone seen types of blue victoriae? I'd really like to see such specimen.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnnyboy on Dec 18, 2012 5:44:05 GMT -8
I can accept that there are naturally occuring blue forms of Ornithoptera. I also don't see a problem in artificially creating blue coloration, as long as any potential purchaser is made aware of the true facts.
Johnny
|
|
|
|
Post by nomad on Dec 19, 2012 10:01:17 GMT -8
It is a interesting debate, as to whether some Ornithoptera blue forms are artificially made. Some may be but others are probably bred. Oliver Schaffler obviously believes the latter, for in his book on Ornithoptera [2001] he shows blue specimens of the following O. victoriae subspecies
rubianus
victoriae
archeri
regis
All the blue forms of these subspecies he calls form niclasi.
Peter.
|
|
|
|
Post by morpho45 on Jan 10, 2013 2:00:29 GMT -8
I love this kind of ornithoptera (croesus Lydius) and all forms can be found ... Besides, I research more! With CITES specimens obtained legally of course!   |
|
|
|
Post by oliversch on Jan 10, 2013 4:42:55 GMT -8
extrem O. croesus lydius form boutoni Attachments:
|
|
|
|
Post by oliversch on Jan 10, 2013 4:43:56 GMT -8
O. croesus toeantei form boutoni Attachments:
|
|
|
|
Post by oliversch on Jan 10, 2013 4:46:10 GMT -8
O. priamus urvillianus from Malaita Attachments:
|
|
myko61
Junior Member
Posts: 28
|
Post by myko61 on Jan 10, 2013 5:37:01 GMT -8
To everyone who posted photos, VERY NICE. I really need to get a digital camera so I can join in.
Ornithoptera, definitely my favorite.
Norman
|
|
|
|
Post by morpho45 on Jan 10, 2013 5:37:35 GMT -8
I'll take them Oliver!
|
|
Very nice and rare specimens jaume
