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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 22, 2018 8:17:13 GMT -8
Hi, it looks like I will get to Hawaii next month. I wondered if anyone can tell me if Udara blackburnii is protected and I would be more than happy to get hints for potential localities if it is legal to catch. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 10:48:14 GMT -8
Fetch me back a few pairs of Vanessa tameamea Claude
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 24, 2018 17:21:16 GMT -8
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 24, 2018 23:43:26 GMT -8
Is Manduca blackburni the green Sphingid, which famously was first found sitting on a rubbish bin? Only a few of those have ever been captured.
Adam.
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 25, 2018 2:53:14 GMT -8
I don't know if it is that one. I actually confused the species with some other species from Hawaii where people are not even sure if it is from the island or not. I can vaguely remember the story, but not the name of it.
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Post by eurytides on Oct 25, 2018 5:14:58 GMT -8
Adam, the green sphinx moth you are thinking of ix Tinostoma smaragditis. Also, would you mind sending me a copy of the Papilio natewa paper? I believe you have my email address from previous correspondence?? Never seen V. tameamea during the last 3 trips to Hawaii visiting 3 different islands  Also, it is protected. cms.ctahr.hawaii.edu/pulelehua/How-to-Identify/Kamehameha-ButterflyYou need a permit to collect it, and I'm pretty sure you're not going to get said permit. |
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 25, 2018 5:26:32 GMT -8
>Please note that the Kamehameha butterfly, like all native wildlife, is protected, and it is illegal to collect specimens without a permit, even on private land.
I saw this sentence on multiple websites, but I cannot find the corresponding law. If there is no specific law it is not protected. In any case there is little chance of me seeing it as I don't have any gear with me. Don't even have a butterfly net atm.
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Post by leptraps on Oct 25, 2018 5:35:19 GMT -8
Many moons ago, late 1960's, I visited Hawaii and collected some very nice Sphingids. We, MS Betty and I, stayed in a small Bed & Breakfeast in an almost tropical jungle setting on Kauai. We returned in 2009 and much of the forest is gone. Collecting was not permitted. I did not take a net. I took Ms Betty instead.
We have visited the Hawaiian Islands four times. Two of those trips I never saw a Lepidopteran. Saw a lot of tanned beach beauties. Was not allowed to touch then either.
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Post by eurytides on Oct 25, 2018 6:03:00 GMT -8
>Please note that the Kamehameha butterfly, like all native wildlife, is protected, and it is illegal to collect specimens without a permit, even on private land. I saw this sentence on multiple websites, but I cannot find the corresponding law. If there is no specific law it is not protected. In any case there is little chance of me seeing it as I don't have any gear with me. Don't even have a butterfly net atm. What do you mean by "corresponding law?" Do you need to see this in writing on an official government website? In any case, Dr. Haines is heading up research on this species and breeding them for release into the wild. If you need to see the law in writing, he can probably direct you. www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/rubinoffd/rubinoff_lab/students_researcher_pics/will_haines/will.htm |
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Post by leptraps on Oct 25, 2018 6:31:38 GMT -8
One of the largest producers of sweet corn, the corn on the cob you by in a grocery store, is Hawaii. Most of that sweet corn is shipped to Japan.
How do I know this, as Leptraps LLC, I sell the corn growers light traps to monitor corn pests.
How did corn pest get to Hawaii? As the story goes, for thirty plus years they grew corn in a pest free environment. Supposedly, a pesticide producer sent salesmen to Hawaii to increase sales. The pesticide sales guys were told there were no pest on corn in Hawaii. Two years later Hawaii had both the Heliothinea and the pyralidae moths. And a huge population of both.
I wonder that happened!
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 25, 2018 8:32:49 GMT -8
Adam, the green sphinx moth you are thinking of ix Tinostoma smaragditis. Also, would you mind sending me a copy of the Papilio natewa paper? I believe you have my email address from previous correspondence?? Ah, yes Tinostoma smaragditis. So there is a Sphingid in Hawaii that is even rarer than that? Actually I had thought that the green one wasn't a Manduca. Adam. PS. I e-mailed you the pdf. If you don't see it please check the junk folder. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 25, 2018 8:34:43 GMT -8
leptraps, Have they found Leucophlebia lineata there yet? That's a beautiful pink and orange Sphingid that feeds on ... CORN. Adam.
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Post by eurytides on Oct 25, 2018 8:35:07 GMT -8
I'm not sure if there are any rarer sphingids in Hawaii.... Off the top of my head, T. smaragditis hasn't been collected in many many years, with the last sighting on the west side of Kauai (can't remember the name of the forest at the moment).
Thanks, got the PDF!
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Post by leptraps on Oct 25, 2018 10:01:01 GMT -8
leptraps, Have they found Leucophlebia lineata there yet? That's a beautiful pink and orange Sphingid that feeds on ... CORN. Adam. I have emailed my contacts in Hawaii. I will not hear from them until tomorrow. |
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Post by leptraps on Oct 25, 2018 10:06:56 GMT -8
That did not take long to get a response.
Leucophlebia lineata is not a pest but is present and it feeds upon the leaves of the corn plant.
It also feeds on Sugar Cane. Not a pest either.
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Also, it is protected.