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Post by Paul K on Dec 13, 2018 17:42:33 GMT -8
I have read somewhere that S.amatrix is not as common in Thailand and restricted to Northern part only.
Yes, this tree was rather tall and I only had 3 meter handle so I had to wait until one got in to my range.
I brought second day long bamboo stick but after few attempts it broke half, it was too old bamboo and not strong anymore which I found somewhere in Punjen Hideaway. Beside that surprisingly activity at that tree was much lower then the day before.
Histia flabellicornis is a common species around Chiang Mai, I found them very often mud puddling together with Papilionidae.
I have never found Epicopeia species.
Paul
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Post by LEPMAN on Dec 13, 2018 19:40:28 GMT -8
Interesting, Histia flabellicornis although common in China I’ve had limited success in getting many specimens. I think all together I have 12, 10 were caught in a 30minute span and the other 2 were caught by chance.
I didn’t know the puddled.
Are there any other day moths youd like to share, I would love to see your Histia specimens! In China there are 2 species that I’ve found so far.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 13, 2018 19:44:51 GMT -8
They are coming soon.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 13, 2018 23:57:40 GMT -8
Histia puddles early in the morning, before most of the butterflies start.
Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 14, 2018 6:27:07 GMT -8
Histia puddles early in the morning, before most of the butterflies start. Adam. I never arrived before 9am and still could see them puddling during the day ( maybe in lower number?). Unlike butterflies and most day flying moths they are unable to fold their wings vertically so to mimic and do not stand out from them they are seating on the ground tilt to one side so half is resting on the ground and other half is up. This is a weird position and at the first time I thought they were dead. They are mullerian mimics with Byasa polyeuctes and dasarada and they occur together in the same habitat. |
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Post by Paul K on Dec 14, 2018 11:17:17 GMT -8
Last drawer of SE Asian moths includes various families. I will update when new species collected. Column 1(from bottom): Family: CossidaeXyleutes leuconotus 2 males, Xyleutes persona male, Xyleutes ceramica female Column 1A: Xyleutes ceramica 2 males Column 1B: Xyleutes mineus 2 males Column 2: Family: SesiidaeMelittia sangaica nipponica 2 , Heterosphecia sp., unknown micro moths unknown 8 Column 3: Family: DrepanidaeSubfamily: CyclidiinaeCyclidia orciferaria 6, Subfamily: Drepaninaeunknown, Tridrepana fulvata, unknown, Column 3A: Subfamily: OretinaeOreta fuscopurpureaColumn 3B: Subfamily: ThyatrinaeHorithyatira Sp. 2 Column 4: Family: ZygaenidaeSubfamily: ChalcosiinaeAmesia sanguiflua, Histia flabellicornis cometaris female, 2 males, Cyclosia midamia female, male, Cyclosia panthona, Cyclosia papilionaris female, male, Cyclosia panthonaTop column 5: Chalcosia phalaenaris 3 Column 5 form bottom: Family: EuteliidaeAnuga indigoferaFamily: PyralidaeSubfamily: PyralinaeArctioblepsis rubida 3, unknown Family: CrambidaeSubfamily: PyraustinaePachynoa thoosalis, Cydalima laticostalis, Dausara amethysta, unknown 2 Column 6: Family: LimacodidaeParasa darma, Parasa eupuncta, Miresa kwangtungensis 2, unknown 2 Family: CrambidaeSubfamily: OdontiinaeHeortia vitessoides 3, Subfamily: Crambinaeunknown 1 Column 7: Family: LimacodidaePhocoderma velutina 2, Scopelodes sericea, Scopelodes venosa,Unknown 2 Family: BombycidaeUnknown 2 Column 6/7 top: Family: LasicampideaTrabala krishna, Metanastria asteria 2  |
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Post by bugboys3 on Dec 14, 2018 11:23:06 GMT -8
Paul, thank you for posting the drawers of your collection. They will help me identify a lot of specimens I have in my collection.
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Post by LEPMAN on Dec 14, 2018 13:57:55 GMT -8
Nice drawer as always Paul, makes me want to spread my specimens.
Also, did you only collect 3 or only mounted 3. They look quite different than my Chinese specimens.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 14, 2018 14:21:35 GMT -8
Nice drawer as always Paul, makes me want to spread my specimens. Also, did you only collect 3 or only mounted 3. They look quite different than my Chinese specimens. I only collected 3 specimens as my space is very limited. I may do collect in the future from different location. I suppose in China may be different subspecies. As of today I mounted all my specimens so I can have a break till next collecting. |
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Post by LEPMAN on Dec 14, 2018 14:35:40 GMT -8
Hey Paul,
Sorry to bother you so much but I’m quite interested by your day moth. There aren’t many people who collect day moths in their collection like you have.
Could you give me the data on your Melittia sangaica nipponica?
There are some species found in China but they are typically considered a treasure of a specimen. Not common at all.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 14, 2018 15:22:40 GMT -8
Hi Ed, You are not bothering me at all, I'm glad I can share my collection with people who have same interest. I like day flying moths also and whenever I encounter new species I try to collect. Sesiidae are really hard to identify and to find, M.sangaica I collected lured to urine during butterflies collecting. Habitat, deciduous tropical forest. Thailand, Chiang Mai, Phrao, Mae Pang, el. 560m. 11/18 Mar 2017. I have two others which I still have to ID if anyone has any clue.  Paul |
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Post by leptraps on Dec 14, 2018 16:46:13 GMT -8
You should use the three Sesidae lures, L-103, L-304 & L-119 the we use in North America. Several years ago a collector in California used them in Ecuador. He collected over 200 specimens of about twenty species. He said several were new to science.
You can easily pack 3 more taps in your luggage along with kill strips and lurkers. It is best to field pin them. A small Schmidt box will hold a 100+.
Where ever I travel to collect in North America, I take 8 or 10 traps.I currently have three drawers of Sesidae. I will need another next year.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 14, 2018 17:30:26 GMT -8
I suppose I should get those lures next time I go there.
I am not really specialize in Sesiidae but it would be interesting to see what could come.
Leroy as you are one of the experts here ( Leptraps ) where would you recommend to buy/order them and what kit I should get.
I never buy or use them so more or less I have no clue where to start.
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Post by leptraps on Dec 14, 2018 17:50:08 GMT -8
Great Lakes IPM., located in Vestaburg, MI.
Send me your contact information to Leptraps@aol.com and I will send you a catalog and I will mark up what you will need.
I assume that you mounted those Sessid moths, if so, you do good work.
Let me know.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 14, 2018 19:03:35 GMT -8
Great Lakes IPM., located in Vestaburg, MI. Send me your contact information to Leptraps@aol.com and I will send you a catalog and I will mark up what you will need. I assume that you mounted those Sessid moths, if so, you do good work. Let me know. Thank you very much Leroy, Yes I mounted those my self from papered dry specimen, it is hard though, I’m sure field pinning and spreading fresh is much easier to do. |
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