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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 10, 2020 20:36:49 GMT -8
From Vietnam. that was the first time I see this beautiful butterfly and I found no pictures in books or online so I thought I'd post it it's quite large 8 cm wingspan  |
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Post by leptraps on Dec 11, 2020 6:46:53 GMT -8
Can you post a photograph of the Verso
Many many moons ago I acquired a large collection of papered Lepidoptera from South Vietnam. It is in one of my freezers, I think.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 11, 2020 7:56:58 GMT -8
Very nice female, it is genus Cynitia, not Tanaecia.
This species does not occur in South Vietnam ( north to central Vietnam Quang Ngai Prov )
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 11, 2020 10:43:16 GMT -8
IT's from Ha Giang North Vietnam Females of Cynitia are drab brown with white markings usually and much smaller . I have Cynitia stellata and C. lepidea from Vietnam and both of those females are olive green with white spots and look nothing like that. The shape of the wings is also very different. i'm pretty sure this is a male of a larger Tanaecia species and it was sold to me as Tanaecia whiteheadi so there must be a picture in one of these Vietnam books .It's similar in size and shape to Tanaecia howarthi or T.calliphorus The only reference I can find of it is an illustration here archive.org/stream/proceedingsofgen00scie#page/508/mode/1upthis is the verso  |
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Post by Paul K on Dec 11, 2020 11:48:21 GMT -8
It is Cynitia whiteheadi whiteheadi - female.
We have this species also in central Laos but quite rare, it is though different subspecies than yours from N. Vietnam.
I will post photos when I get to my laptop.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 11, 2020 14:20:58 GMT -8
This is the picture taken from Butterflies of Laos publication. This is the subspecies esmeralda described recently (2014) by Saito and Yutaka Inayoshi which seems to occur only in Laos I don't have this species in my collection.  |
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Post by leptraps on Dec 11, 2020 16:46:16 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity, what does that little beauty cost, missing chip and all.
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 11, 2020 17:48:18 GMT -8
ah, thanks!
Cynitia whiteheadi female then
I appreciate you dug out these reference pictures
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 11, 2020 17:52:32 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity, what does that little beauty cost, missing chip and all. not much .Few bids on it so 15$ |
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Post by leptraps on Dec 12, 2020 0:48:31 GMT -8
After looking at the photograph of the species and the price, is it that rare or just due to the fact it from Vietnam?
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 12, 2020 3:35:38 GMT -8
I keep seeing butterflies from Vietnam I've never seen before offered or even pictured on the internet. But it doesn't mean the price will go high for some reason. In my experience it's not the type of species that triggers bidding wars. Another example is this very unusual Euthalia. (Euthalia pyrrha). That was new to me too and not expensive. Also even if there's a few scratches it's the only specimen so far I've seen offered with no chips or bad damage.  |
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Post by yorky on Dec 12, 2020 5:16:36 GMT -8
Euthalia byakko is the one that I'm after but it's always expensive.
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Post by yorky on Dec 12, 2020 5:23:12 GMT -8
 _ Described fairly recently this is Euthalia takeru from China, I have a pair now but it's hardly ever for sale. |
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 12, 2020 6:06:18 GMT -8
Euthalia byakko is the one that I'm after but it's always expensive. I know! That's one of the specific species that trigger bidding wars for some reason. |
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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 12, 2020 6:07:25 GMT -8
View Attachment_ Described fairly recently this is Euthalia takeru from China, I have a pair now but it's hardly ever for sale. I have some white banded species like this I'm not sure what they are. E.duda or some new species |
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