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Post by dertodesking on Oct 20, 2011 11:08:35 GMT -8
So Gaddafi was caught (alive - according to the pictures) and then "died"...and already the news programmes over here are full of loony "liberals" saying that he was the subject of an "extra-judicial killing"...SO WHAT!!!
Is it really a loss to the world that a tyrant who enslaved and killed his own people for over forty years ends up with a bullet in his head? Have these people who are complaining forgotten how his regime was behind the blowing up of a jet aircraft carrying many truly innocent people or how his regime supplied guns/explosives/finance to terrorist organisations all over the world???
I for one won't be shedding any tears - adios Muammar!!!
Simon
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 12:24:00 GMT -8
yes I must agree, good riddance to bad rubbish I say, the only thing I am sorry about is that his end was not more painful and lingering, I'm sure all his countless innocent victims would have hoped for a painful and drawn out demise and as an added bonus they got his son too.
ta ta tyranical one.
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Post by prillbug2 on Oct 20, 2011 13:44:13 GMT -8
Yeah, may his time in eternity be a hot and bothered one.
Jeff Prill
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Post by panzerman on Oct 20, 2011 16:28:24 GMT -8
I agree!
Hopefully Mr. Assad, tyrant of Syrian regime is next on the list....
John
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Post by lamprima2 on Oct 20, 2011 20:57:26 GMT -8
A psychologically normal human being wouldn’t celebrate someone’s killing. This is not about the political orientation, “liberalism” or “conservatism”. This has nothing to do with the personality of murdered. This is rather about the level of your enlightenment.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 23:27:04 GMT -8
I,m sure the families of his tortured victims would love to chew over that view with you o enlightened one.
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 21, 2011 1:07:03 GMT -8
Good riddance. Hope North African countries will achieve to build democraty now.
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Post by starlightcriminal on Oct 21, 2011 4:08:41 GMT -8
Yes, glad to see another tyrant topple. I worry about a power vacuum though. It took a long time for most places to become democratic, it's not something that can be imposed on a country that isn't ready for it socially.
I agree though, it would be better for this to be handled in a more civilized manner for the reason above and for the reason Sergey mentions- the idea is that we are better than him, not equal. Do we revel in the brutalization of people we don't like or do we try to have a sense of justice and set a democratic example by at least expressing that stable, healthy nations have less dramatic and destabilizing ways of reconciling his victims feelings and his fate. An official trial would've had required some immediate calm down and organization that would've helped transitioning from dictatorship to democracy easier I think- requires getting a court together, evaluating laws, finding level headed people to administrate the legal system and so on. It makes me nervous because it's just following with more of the same, problems being solved only through violence with no apparent organization or in line with any set of laws. I don't know that it won't just encourage a new dictator, one of the militant rebel types, to take over. After all, that has pretty much been the trend in that region of the world for quite some time. Topple one regime and replace it with another.
I do think celebrating the brutal way in which he died is... not that humane... Not that he was a humane person himself, but eye for and eye is Sharia law like Iran. Isn't the idea that we can be better than that? But yes, good riddance. Celebrate that he is gone, not that he left in the way he did. He was truly an evil man and it is not surprising at all the terrible way his life ended. I hope one day there is no tolerance or space left in the world for cruel leaders such as this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 4:39:13 GMT -8
its just proof to me that sometimes in this life you do reap what you sow and he has, I dont condone violence, I dislike it immensly but my sympathy lies and always will with the families of the many thousands this one man has tormented, justice is not always a sweet medicine to swallow, he only has himself to blame, nobody should celebrate the WAY he died, nor should they shed a tear that he has, lets just hope that any following regime is a little less brutal and a little more humane.
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Post by anthony on Oct 21, 2011 5:23:27 GMT -8
I wonder what MR. Assad thinks of those pictures.
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Post by bobw on Oct 21, 2011 5:36:38 GMT -8
I wonder what MR. Assad thinks of those pictures. Unfortunately, it will probably make him even more determined to suppress any dissent, lest the same thing happen to him. Let's hope he's the next one to go. Bob |
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Post by starlightcriminal on Oct 21, 2011 9:33:56 GMT -8
Yes, sympathy with the people of Libya and everyone else who must live in such conditions. Bob is right, Assad probably has a hard time imagining not being on the top of his ivory tower so the idea that it is his actions that incite these kinds of responses will probably not cross his mind.
Not long before Gaddafi died he gave an interview where he repeatedly discussed how much the people of Libya loved and supported him. He seemed as though he genuinely believed it. Obviously hard to believe from the outside and hard to gauge the condition of your own populations temperament when you spend your life in lavish luxury disconnected from everyone and everything around you. Probably to him it really did seem like the seas parted if he wanted them to. How short sighted most people are, and it seems especially true of people with extreme power. They're like teenagers that don't realize they aren't invincible and that mistreating the world around you will eventually catch up, no matter if your toilet is made of gold or not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 10:03:40 GMT -8
hard to gauge the condition of your own populations temperament when you spend your life in lavish luxury disconnected from everyone and everything around you
sounds like the current British government, all multi millionaires they slash our wages, health care and everything else but "they feel our pain" f~~k off.
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Post by saturniidave on Oct 21, 2011 15:17:16 GMT -8
Gadaffi was obviously deluded if he thought he still had the love and backing of his people, as many tyrants are. Saddam Hussein was the same.
I don't like the way he was killed though, that was wrong. He should have been captured alive so he could be tried for all the crimes he has committed against his people and others, as a Brit I remember the Lockerbie disaster and the shooting of Yvonne Fletcher very well and also his supplying arms to the IRA. O.K if he was then sentenced to death by his own country so be it.
Killing him like that in cold blood makes those that did it no better than he was, also it will make him a Martyr in the eyes of those fanatics who still backed him.
I can however understand the people shooting him like that, if he had treated my people and families the way he did I theirs I would have probably done the same if I was caught up in all the blood lust. But that does not make it right.
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Post by prillbug2 on Oct 21, 2011 20:22:18 GMT -8
The wicked dig their own pit, and then they fall into it. Proverbs--Bible. Whatever Gadaffi got out of this, was from his own evil nature. The Devil claimed his soul.
Jeff Prill
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