steve
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Post by steve on Aug 11, 2013 19:50:02 GMT -8
grafvalent, great photos and specimens. What photographic set-up are you using?
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Post by Paradiseus on Aug 12, 2013 1:31:46 GMT -8
Hello Steve! Thank you! I make photo in daylight at a simple camera Canon 1000 D. Nothing special.) If necessary - I make retouch photo and editing lighting in Adobe Photoshop CS5
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Post by laurie1 on Oct 13, 2013 10:50:33 GMT -8
Quite a nice O. aesacus
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Post by nomad on Oct 20, 2013 7:44:28 GMT -8
Seeing this amazing genuine Bilateral Gynandromorph picture again of a O. priamus poseidon specimen bred by a butterfly farmer some years ago for IFTA, reminds me of a number of fake specimens that have been sold and especially brings to mind the fake O. urvillianus priamus specimen bought by a collector and shown on the forum who happily got his money back from the dealer.
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Post by rumina on Oct 24, 2013 2:13:55 GMT -8
i remember an O. urvillianus gynandromorph exemplar saw in Modena ten years ago. they wanted only 8.500.000 Lire (4300 €) a "Cheap price for a great butterfly".
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Post by froggy on Nov 1, 2013 5:19:15 GMT -8
Magnificent form of this rare ssp of O. Tithonus, enjoy! I saw this on ebay the other day, unfortunately way too pricey for my budget. I took the liberty to make it look "perfect" by digitally editing out a few scratches Does any one know if this form has been named? Froggy
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Post by nomad on Nov 1, 2013 7:30:42 GMT -8
Hi Froggy, I believe a very rare aberrant of O. tithonus cytherea. I am not sure if the aberration has a name it may be unique . O. tithonus cytherea is a magnificent and a very beautiful taxon. I would love to see photographs of this species in its highland Habitat. Here are two specimens in my collection, a large male of cytherea with a golden male of O. tithonus misresiana .
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Post by nomad on Nov 1, 2013 8:05:32 GMT -8
With the sad passing of Jan Pasternak, I thought it would be a good time to show two nice pairs of the taxon O. meridionalis tarrungarensis [Joicey & Talbot 1927] that he rediscovered in West Papua. Both the pairs shown are from my collection and are from the same locality ' Timika ' and show the great variability in any one population with the different shades of green iridescence and even the very noticeable differences in the hindwing shape. I afraid the population from Yahukimo are tarrungarensis and not a new subspecies. Even one dealer had a Yahukimo pair at Juvisy as the nominate race, however these had been changed to ssp tarrungarensis later in the day. At first ssp tarrungarensis from the Weyland Mountains was named on account of only minor differences to nominate race, but mainly because it was isolated by huge distances from those nominate populations in Papua. Recent discoveries have shown that there are pockets of this species right across most of New Guinea and the two populations are not really isolated at all. I agree with Jan, few butterflies can surpass O. meridionalis for its superb colour and wing shape and his studies of this species in New Guinea make exciting reading.
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Post by froggy on Nov 2, 2013 5:52:19 GMT -8
Thank you Nomad for the picts of your beautiful specimen, looks like you have quite a collection of birdwings I agree with you that with the latest data and information it does appear that O. Meridionalis is a wide ranging species, with enough individual variations to account for all the named ssp. I was saddened to hear about the passing of Jan Pasternak. I bought copies of his book a few years back, for myself and a very good friend of mine in France who is even more passionate about birdwings. A very enjoyable read! Wouldn't it be nice to "recognize" Jan with a named form of the exceptional "confluenta" variations that O. Meridionalis is known to produce. These are quite beautiful and quite unique (see below). Cheers, Thierry
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Post by froggy on Nov 2, 2013 5:58:14 GMT -8
Thank you Nomad for the picts of your beautiful specimen, looks like you have quite a collection of birdwings I agree with you that with the latest data and information it does appear that O. Meridionalis is a wide ranging species, with enough individual variations to account for all the named ssp. I was saddened to hear about the passing of Jan Pasternak. I bought copies of his book a few years back, for myself and a very good friend of mine in France who is even more passionate about birdwings. A very enjoyable read! Wouldn't it be nice to "recognize" Jan with a named form of the exceptional "confluenta" variations that O. Meridionalis is known to produce. These are quite beautiful and quite unique. Cheers, Thierry Attachment Deleted
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Post by nomad on Nov 2, 2013 7:43:49 GMT -8
Hi Thierry, nice confluenta meridionalis abs. In 1981, Jan Pasternak found a form of O. meridionalis on a plateau at 700 meters near Kamrau Bay. Jan bred three males that were identical with a increased very golden iridescence into the forewing cell. Unfortunately the wings were defected when enclosing. I understand there is a forthcoming book, a encyclopedia of the Birdwings by Deslisle and Sclavo, it would be nice as you say, after all of Jan's fieldwork on this species and his discoveries of new O. meridionalis populations including the ' Kamrau Bay' - Lake Yamur highland population, if they consider the latter a form local or if there is another special aberration from another area, which they could name in his honour, this would be great. . I would be interesting to hear from collectors who have O. meridionalis from the Kamrau bay locality, Jan mention that those around the bay were different to those on the hills above. What do they believe. Below Jan's notes and his hill form of O. meridionalis.
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Post by nomad on Nov 2, 2013 8:07:58 GMT -8
I believe I may have seen some Kamrau Bay specimens for sale but, I can not remember where?
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Post by froggy on Nov 2, 2013 11:55:00 GMT -8
Hi Nomad, Just to be clear, none of the Meridionalis specimen I pictured are in mine. As a hobby I look for pictures of birdwings on the web and I make my own photo albums. I have a few specimen of my own of all the major species but nothing all that unique in their own regards. But my interest goes back a ways! My very first birdwings were pairs O. Priamus Poseidon, O. P. Hecuba, O. P. Demophanes which I got from a store in Turnbridge Wells in the spring of 1971! My parents had sent me from France to the UK over the easter vacation to practice my English, and I was staying with a young family in one of the northern London suburbs. I remember going to Turnbridge Wells by bus, "tube" and train, was a whole expedition for me back then. These are found memories and still have a soft spot for the UK. Here a very different form I found from the Antennae company this past week. Almost too baroque to be real!!! Enjoy, Thierry Attachment Deleted
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Post by froggy on Nov 3, 2013 8:34:58 GMT -8
Quite a set of O. Allotei females I found in my exploration of the web. And I thought these babies were rare! Interestingly with more specimen becoming available or known, it is possible to tell that the O. Priamus Urvillianus Fuscapallida phenotype (dark form) is also expressed in the Allotei hybrid females. Enjoy, Thierry Attachment Deleted
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Post by nomad on Nov 3, 2013 10:56:34 GMT -8
Hi Froggy, You certainly must do your internet research well and I enjoy seeing your images. . Your images album, is certainly a good way of understanding the great variation in the Ornithoptera. I was looking at my small ' Ornithoptera ' collection recently, checking the drawers and was amazed how much I had spent on it, the rarer species and subspecies are certainly not cheap but, I treasure my collection and enjoy having it. Which brings me to your recent male aberration of O. Goliath procus and seeing that reminded me of John, ' Panzerman ' who started this very popular thread. I have not seen John post for a very long time. I did enjoy seeing his specimens from his amazing Papilionidae collection and hope to see more soon. I believe Panzerman had one of the best collections of rare O. tithonus subspecies that I have seen and it would be nice to be able to view them again. Regards Peter.
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