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Post by stapleton on Jun 4, 2015 17:42:46 GMT -8
Sure. Normally, people should always be absolutely aware of WHAT really they are paying for. Concerning the above-discussed nicknames and the question of "who is who", I must say that in fact, the mentioned names (designations) represent three (3) different personalities all involved in (re)selling Ornithoptera, yet only one of them is "standacer" (99dmitry99).
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Post by wzinke on Jun 4, 2015 17:50:42 GMT -8
Wow, I have been out lately and just checked in. I am humbled to say the least in your response! Chuck, thank you for that very detailed summation. And all who have jumped in to help! Sorry to have created such a firestorm here. I hope my mistake will really warn others from buying these "rare" color form Ornithoptera...
Unfortunately, as of now [4 June 2015] I have not heard back from Ebay...I hope they read through your professional response and re-consider. I still am doubtful as that means they will be losing a lot of money.
I am shocked at this standacer...it does sound like he may be Dimitiry! If you are, PLEASE help me out here as you sold me a fraud! And I hope that 99Dimitiry99 and erf13 are not the same person... Serious thank you to all....Will
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Post by mikelock34 on Jun 5, 2015 2:08:01 GMT -8
What is all the fuss here? What happened to "C'est La Vie?
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Post by cabintom on Jun 5, 2015 2:59:41 GMT -8
Unfortunately, as of now [4 June 2015] I have not heard back from Ebay...I hope they read through your professional response and re-consider. I still am doubtful as that means they will be losing a lot of money. I just want to make sure that you're aware that Ebay can't come here and read that post unless they've signed up for the site. This Trading Reports section is hidden until you sign up.
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Post by exoticimports on Jun 5, 2015 4:21:40 GMT -8
Chuck, Your excellent post, presumably which has been or is about to be sent to eBay would be much more convincing if the name rubianus was used instead of the incorrect "rubianensis". Adam. Dammit, Adam. I hate getting old.
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Post by wzinke on Jun 5, 2015 20:22:37 GMT -8
Unfortunately, as of now [4 June 2015] I have not heard back from Ebay...I hope they read through your professional response and re-consider. I still am doubtful as that means they will be losing a lot of money. I just want to make sure that you're aware that Ebay can't come here and read that post unless they've signed up for the site. This Trading Reports section is hidden until you sign up. Yes, I have tried to explain to them that this forum exists and how to subscribe...which I am doubtful they will do it but I have tried. Like I said before at the beginning of this thread for those who would be so bold as to help plead my case against this fraud I have given detailed instruction. I will update here when I hear back from the ebay case holder on this, but like I said before I am not holding my breath...Thanks again
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 6, 2015 0:51:24 GMT -8
Will,
Open the topic in the forum using your web browser and convert the open webpage to pdf file and then e-mail the pdfs of each page to eBay.
If you can't do that I would be happy to do it for you.
Adam.
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Post by butterfly on Jun 6, 2015 10:33:45 GMT -8
Dear Colleagues,
I seller with ebay "99dmitriy99". Sorry for later answer. I really only recently saw, what in this topic on the forum a lot about me wrote tactless. I'm a thief and a fraud has never been and never will. I want to explain you all situation. Will, i bought this butterfly also very expensive as and you! I bought it with such description as and sold you on the ebay! Such butterflies for $350-$500 nowhere sold! I myself do not make them! I could make you full refund money, but if could you return it to me in exactly the same condition as i sent it to you. But, at the moment, condition butterfly does not correspond condition return! I'm very sorry that it happened. I think you will understand me correctly.
Thanks, Dmitriy
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Post by ornithorchid on Jun 6, 2015 11:23:00 GMT -8
Did you know that this specimen was a fake? That it was not a real 'niclasi'. And is it the reason why you advertise it as "shipped mounted" since relaxing the specimen would have destroy its fake blue color?
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Post by terry2014 on Jun 6, 2015 13:28:48 GMT -8
Did you know that this specimen was a fake? That it was not a real 'niclasi'. And is it the reason why you advertise it as "shipped mounted" since relaxing the specimen would have destroy its fake blue color? He is not going to answer "yes" to either question is he. I would like to see him banned from InsectNet for such bad behaviour. Terry.
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Post by cabintom on Jun 6, 2015 16:26:17 GMT -8
Are you the seller trying to cover yourself, or helping him? No. I'm just interested in this topic. I'm just not sure it's possible to do blue-purple O.Victoriae. Just highlighting an earlier reply from "standacer" or, as he has now admitted, "99dmitriy99". Seems like someone has been dishonest and deceptive in his activities in this thread. I'm sure we're all wise and mature enough to come to the appropriate conclusions about that man's character.
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Post by wzinke on Jun 6, 2015 19:34:11 GMT -8
Will, Open the topic in the forum using your web browser and convert the open webpage to pdf file and then e-mail the pdfs of each page to eBay. If you can't do that I would be happy to do it for you. Adam. Hi Adam, I will try that....I did print out some and scan and make into PDF but probably would look better if it was directly sent.
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Post by wzinke on Jun 6, 2015 19:46:21 GMT -8
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Post by ornithorchid on Jun 7, 2015 5:48:00 GMT -8
Wzinke Mind posting a copy screen of the ad details. I can't get it from my past following list. You should have it. Thank you. Emmanuel
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Post by butterfly on Jun 7, 2015 6:12:50 GMT -8
Will, i just warned you that I was afraid that the relaxation and re-mounting you smash it and breaks. I did for you a WARNING, to tell you right away that if you somehow DAMAGE the butterfly and it will not in proper condition, then I did not ACCEPT it from you. And indeed this is what happened. So you KNEW that you will be unable to properly relaxation and re-mounting, why you it is not sent to me before your all actions? It's like all the same that you have bought a new TV in the store for $2450 and the next day you it smash. After you SMASH it you're trying to return him back. But no one you will not return, because the goods damaged and will not be returned! So i think that the staff ebay absolutely correct is solved this problem between us.
Dmitriy
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