A Thief amongst us.

Leroy,

Every story has 2 sides. Here is mine. By the way calling... me a THIEF with ZERO proof of & trying to ruin my reputation online is premature & a disgrace to your Godfearing self. First of all I have never screwed anyone over with online purchases. As an example I have purchased almost 2,000 items through Ebay sellers throughout the world with 100% satisfaction to the Sellers. As well there are a number of collectors on this site that I have had exchanges with & who know me & I have never screwed anyone! I have never had such a runaround experience with any seller in my life. I just counted up the emails between us... an incredible 18 EMAILS & 4 phone calls in the last 110 days! I was told 3 times, by phone, that the order was in the mail.... again never with a tracking number, which is the only way a buyer can verify that the item was shipped. The only tracking number I FINALLY EVER received (despite repeated requests) is the one emailed to me on 08 June '20 & that was for a new replacement light... which last time I checked, last week, was still in transit.

My order with you starting back on 06 March '20 has carried on now for 110 days to date & I still don't have a working collecting light. I currently have in my possession ONE ONLY faulty light (won't light up & no spare tube) worth $237.75 USD = $331.05 CAD by Paypal, that I have said repeatedly, in emails back to you, that I will ship back upon receipt of another new working light. The current faulty light that I have was shipped 18 May '20 (no tracking number of course)... I received it on 06 June '20. This simple order has escalated into a horrendous case of misunderstandings/miscommunications & is a case of continuous runarounds from Mr. K.; in one of his own emails he said he never had the needed parts for building the lights prior to 14 May '20 yet I was told (right after Easter by ph.)… it was sitting in the back of his truck (for a month & he had forgot about it!). Another time I was told, by phone, me he had already shipped it (again NO TRACKING NUMBER) & after another request he said it just happened to be sitting on his bench in the shop which he would ship next day.... again no tracking number… nothing.

It is very hard to communicate with L.K. by phone/email as he gets everything so screwed up (misunderstandings/forgetfulness/lies) that I am left shaking my in head utter disbelief. If he had no parts prior to 14 May '20 how did he ship me my light 3 different times prior to that date?... of course with not a single tracking number/proof to confirm it/they was/were actually shipped. Leroy knew when I placed my order with him on 06 March '20 that he couldn't fulfill the order until he received the parts from China. He should have let me know back in March that was the case & I would have to wait a long time... which due to additional delays due to Covid 19 & subsequent delays in mail delivery I could accept. Instead I get a continuous runaround/lies... I do not have in my possession 3 collecting lights.... that is completely absurd! I, to this date, have a single faulty collecting light sitting on my deep freeze, repackaged & waiting to be shipped back as soon as I receive the replacement light. I am still awaiting the replacement light shipped by L.K. 08 June. I think some of these phantom shipments L.K. claims he sent (with ZERO proof by way of tracking numbers except for the 08 June '20 shipment) may still be stuck in backlogs in the mail services. If I receive any additional collecting lights, which I am not owed, they will be gladly shipped back to Mr. Koehn... I have been more than patient for 110 days, 18 emails, 4 ph. calls, & have spent $331.05 CAN & have nothing to show to this date, but a SINGLE faulty collecting light. I would suggest to Mr. L.K. that he can have show some patience on his end & simply wait. As to not responding to recent emails, etc.... no kidding... why should I?...after all the wasted time, frustration, anxiety & now trying to ruin my reputation online... I am completely fed up with the this braggert "master baiter/collector/world renouned seller"... his own worlds online.

I should point out I purpose built, in March/April, a custom light trap to house the missing, working, collecting light ordered from Leptraps & I need that light... I do not want a refund... I want a working light. Even after going through all this B.S. I can still vouch for L.K.'s collecting lights as I have an identical one ordered & in perfect service from 4 yrs. ago. There was also a mistake made with that simple order, but it was quickly rectified.



John K.

Hopefully at some point cooler heads will prevail.

Chuck

L.K.'s last lines in above post: "If what has been said about me in a previous post were true, I would have been out of business years ago." So not only are you calling me a THIEF, now you are publicly calling me a LIAR??? This is pure SLANDER for which you do not have a single shred of evidence... & you know it. Just because of your thousands of satisfied customers over the last 30 years this automatically puts you beyond any current criticism/beyond reproach?? Every transaction was absolutely perfect? Seriously? Truthfully? What specifically do your other customers & your dearly departed wife have to do with this(my)specific case? Slandering someone with no proof is an extremely serious thing. As I write this, after 111 days, now 20 emails, 4 phone calls & some texts, $376.34 CAD spent PLUS another $105.63 return shipping costs = a total of $481.97 for 1 collecting light & 2 tubes. I am now in the proud possession of TWO faulty collecting lights (which I am arranging to rapidly send back to you) so you can see for yourself they are faulty. I only have 2 tubes & no WORKING light...  after nearly 4 months of endless unexplained delays & runarounds.

I might also remind you Mr. Koehn that you, & you alone, initiated this loathsome PUBLIC thread seeking to ruin my reputation. We could have settled this privately... eventually. Do you honestly expect me to sit back & not defend myself against completely baseless accusations? What kind of double standard game are you playing? No one, & I repeat no one, is beyond question... we are all humans & all of us make mistakes... even you Leroy..

It is also very interesting (& telling) that you did not address a single issue I brought up in my last 2 long posts... other than to say you are beyond criticism... Really?

Following are 2 direct quotes from an email sent to me by L.K. on 7 June 2020: "So that you know. When the Covid19 pandemic occurred, I had a large shipment of components coming from China. My order was held at port until 1 May 2020. I received my order on 14 May 2020. I shipped your order on 18 May 2020 via first class mail via USPS." Further on another quote, "I had virtually no electronic components until my order arrived from China". You shipped my 1st collecting light 18 May 2020... again with no Tracking number. I did however receive it on 6 June & it didn't work. You sent a 2nd replacement on 8 June 2020 (Incredibly with a tracking number... the 1st one EVER!) & I received it yesterday 23 June... & again it doesn't work.... something is loose & rattling around inside the ballast. Just answer for me, once & for all, a simple question. By your own admission you never had all the parts necessary to build these lights until 14 May 2020... How, in the world, did you send me any collecting lights between 06 March, when my order was 1st placed, to 14 May when you finally got the parts?? I never received a single package containing any collecting lights during that 06 March to 18 May period when an actual light was shipped. If you are being completely truthful (remember you just called me a LIAR in addition to being a THIEF) where is the proof that any lights were shipped prior to 18 May 2020? By proof I mean tracking numbers. Leroy I am publicly asking you to provide me with any & all tracking numbers of your alleged "phantom" shipments placed between 06 March & 18 May. This is the ONLY WAY I have as a buyer to verify that any items were actually shipped. If you cannot supply me with any tracking numbers from that time period... then who is the LIAR... claiming multiple lights were shipped (even though you, knew as of 06 March, that you didn't have any parts to build them!)… what a fiasco & long string of lies. Remember L.K. I have every email (20 now) you ever sent me & I will reveal more stuff... if needed... to put an final end to this utterly ridiculous transaction. Again the 2 faulty lights are ready to ship back. Pay me the additional $105.63 by Paypal & they will be on their way very shortly & I am still expecting a working light as you just promised in latest email number 20.

I must have missed it, but I could not find where Leroy identified you in his emails...

John

Hello John S.,

I wasn't mentioned directly, but it was clearly unmistakable who he was calling a THIEF. Imagine how you personally or any other insectnet.com member would feel being falsely accused, with zero proof, of being a THIEF, on a forum with well over a thousand members as well as the hundreds of others (visitors) who are free to follow the forums without signing in. I have never scammed or cheated any seller out of anything in my life.

I simply wanted to nip this thread in the bud, before widespread speculation began as to who it was. L.K. cast a wide net in calling out "A" Canadian, without naming them, thereby casting doubt & instilling curiosity on the entire collecting community up here. I, honesty, could not contain myself as I absolutely have had it after almost 4 months of unexplainable delays with this man. L.K., in simple terms, treated me like a mushroom... I was kept constantly in the dark & fed a continuous line of Bullcrap. A secret as to who this Canadian was would have spread like wildfire through backdoor methods... in this case I mean the PM messages & private emails. As proof of that...the very 2nd post to this thread immediately after L.K.'s inflammatory accusation, was by a very well known Canadian insect dealer wanting to know who it was. This insect dealer/friend whom I have known personally for more than 20 yrs., & with whom I have carried out 3 very large & successful exchanges with over those yrs. & who has personally visited my farm, along with his wife, would be shocked at who was being accused (wrongfully with no proof). This is just one example... if I wouldn't have come out to respond to these slanderous & extremely hurtful & false accusations, to tell my side of the story, nothing would have prevented L.K. from Private Messaging/privately emailing scores of his friends in the worldwide collecting community & smearing me further behind my back. I honestly believe L.K. is a very spiteful person hiding behind a very thin veil of religion to promote his virtuous self image while anyone else, like myself, a complete stranger, who crosses/questions him, is brushed off as criminal "Dirt". I simply decided to clear up the mystery, because I have absolutely nothing to hide. Everything is spelled out in my previous posts. After 4 months of wrangling I am now the proud owner of TWO faulty & completely useless collecting lights, which L.K. is suddenly too cheap to pay for their return, which would go a long way in helping to resolve this crazy transaction. L.K. still has not supplied a single tracking number of his numerous phantom shipments supposedly made to me between 06 March & 18 May....PLUS he didn't have the parts to build them in the first place, as outlined by his own words in a recent email in that time period... AND he has not offered to refund my money (well over $300.00 CAD which would pay for a month's groceries for me as I live on a fixed income).

The whole situation just stinks to high heaven & is unbelievably frustrating for me … I always thought that if someone sells you faulty items isn't it up to them to pay return shipping & either replace the items or give a full refund?? That is just good business practise. L.K. now says (for the 2nd time!) he has blocked my emails & will no longer respond to me. No working lights, no money refunds... ZERO customer satisfaction to he so loves to preach he is known for.... sickening.

Guess that this particular thread will not morph into totally unrelated stories of wide loads and flatulence? 

Jan

Let's hope that topic has helped solve the issue between 2 of our members.