iroki
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Post by iroki on Apr 10, 2013 9:24:57 GMT -8
Male and female of Urania sloanus from Jamaica Manfred Truly amazing!, What is the collecting year and locality of Your specimens? |
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Post by lepidofrance on Apr 10, 2013 9:39:15 GMT -8
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Post by hewi on Apr 10, 2013 12:26:06 GMT -8
The male is labelled: Jamaica, VIII-1977 !!!!
and the female: Jamaica, X-1919, Slater leg.
Manfred
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Post by bicaliber on Apr 10, 2013 15:21:55 GMT -8
Hello collectors, Here's one of my better M. didius mosaics. Enjoy, Alex Attachments:
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Post by Chris Grinter on Apr 10, 2013 15:30:00 GMT -8
Sure that's not 1877? No way that's 19xx!
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 10, 2013 23:48:32 GMT -8
Thanks hewi for confirming that some sloanus have been caught in the 70ies.
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mygos
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Post by mygos on Apr 11, 2013 1:40:50 GMT -8
@ Manfred
Very nice pair of Urania sloanus, and so fresh !
@ Alex
Very nice gynandromorph !!!
A+, Michel
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Post by jaguarae on Apr 11, 2013 2:25:56 GMT -8
Lepidofrance , there's a P. panthonus on your photo , isn't it ?   |
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Post by jshuey on Apr 11, 2013 9:34:58 GMT -8
Sure that's not 1877? No way that's 19xx! Some odd bugs have been turning up is the Cockpit Country as of late. Perhaps it hung on there unseen by most people until recently (or perhaps still does). I'm optimistic that this fairly new conservation area holds some big surprises Troyus turneri for one - a new species and genus... butterfliesofamerica.com/L/t/Troyus_a.htmAnd Grais stigmaticus juncta - assumed to be extinct when it was described butterfliesofamerica.com/L/t/Grais_stigmaticus_juncta_a.htm |
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Post by nomad on Apr 11, 2013 10:17:01 GMT -8
Lepidofrance, in a recent thread on Urania sloanus, you cited that the last specimens were collected in 1894-1895 and also a possible further collection in 1908 and gave a list of the authors who had mentioned this fact. You must be surprised to see that Manfred specimens are from 1919 and 1977. The latter date certainly me! Surely this apparently extinct species was perhaps the most beautiful day-flying moth species in the world and also the most desirable in any collection. Peter. |
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Post by maurizio on Apr 11, 2013 13:40:47 GMT -8
Lepidofrance , there's a P. panthonus on your photo , isn't it ? I'd say the true rarity is the male of Parides vercingetorix; moreover I see three males of Parides panthonus. |
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Post by lepidofrance on Apr 11, 2013 14:18:38 GMT -8
Lepidofrance, in a recent thread on Urania sloanus, you cited that the last specimens were collected in 1894-1895 and also a possible further collection in 1908 and gave a list of the authors who had mentioned this fact. You must be surprised to see that Manfred specimens are from 1919 and 1977. The latter date certainly me! Peter. The collecting data I produced here, as I said, are given by the Natural History Museum which is a well known british and trustable institution  : www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/species-of-the-day/biodiversity/loss-of-habitat/urania-sloanus//In my case, I have never stayed in Jamaica, I never tried to collect Urania sloanus. I do not know if in this island remain inaccessible forests pieces likely to harbor rare species. So I have no personal position on the occurrence of Urania sloanus.  |
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Post by lepidofrance on Apr 11, 2013 14:31:07 GMT -8
I'd say the true rarity is the male of Parides vercingetorix; moreover I see three males of Parides panthonus. Right !  On the attached photo, some interesting Parides (J. Porteneuve's drawer, seen to-day). Attachments:
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Post by jaguarae on Apr 12, 2013 1:05:33 GMT -8
Yes really interesting  The difficulty on a photo , is to make difference between the ssp. gundlachianus (gundlachianus or alayoi) unless if you have the good localities For panthonus and vercingetorix i'm septical about the most rarity .... but it's my own view |
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Post by panzerman on Apr 12, 2013 16:48:08 GMT -8
Here are both ssp. gundlachianus M+F in drawer John Attachments:
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