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Post by lordpandarus on Dec 30, 2016 10:31:59 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Dec 30, 2016 16:57:08 GMT -8
When they become mass production, the value will be very little and no one will be amazed about them. Paul |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 3, 2017 6:47:48 GMT -8
I find their color pattern amazing, that's why I'd want one. I don't care about it's monetary value
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Post by jshuey on Jan 3, 2017 7:32:19 GMT -8
I find their color pattern amazing, that's why I'd want one. I don't care about it's monetary value They are amazing looking insects. Their existence and apparent ease of production (I've seen about 10 of these for sale recently)confirms what taxonomists now consider to be a settled issue - there is no genus Agrias. They are all Prepona. John |
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Post by Paul K on Jan 3, 2017 7:32:55 GMT -8
I see, I misunderstood your post.
Indeed some insects have little value but they are beautiful. I wish more people could see and discover them this way.
Cheers
Paul
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Post by dynastes on Jan 26, 2017 12:59:08 GMT -8
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Post by dynastes on Jan 26, 2017 13:03:24 GMT -8
Hybrid Agrias claudina lugens x Prepona dexamenus photo from internet Attachments:
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 26, 2017 15:42:08 GMT -8
The one in your first post is very beautiful and perfect
The one in the post just above is not set correctly unfortunately , very bent shoulders .I noticed a lot of the specimens I 've seen offered have this problem to some extent. Maybe they didn't let the wings dry enough after emerging
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Post by lordpandarus on May 24, 2018 23:26:48 GMT -8
I see a lot of them on ebay now
Prices are going down from over 1000$ to around 200$ thyese days
I might get one of them someday
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 0:32:34 GMT -8
Me too Lord P, stunning butterflies.
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Post by lordpandarus on May 25, 2018 19:51:15 GMT -8
A lot of Agrias have blue hind wings, but they need a bright light shined on them or a flash picture for the blue to show.
On the other hand the light blue of this Prepona band should be very contrasting
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Post by africaone on May 26, 2018 7:35:46 GMT -8
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Post by lordpandarus on May 26, 2018 7:53:04 GMT -8
I think whoever is breeding them is killing them too early after emerging. I see a lot of bent shoulders in set specimens indicating they might be difficult to spread
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Post by beetlehorn on May 26, 2018 8:08:12 GMT -8
Indeed they look stunning. I have never been a fan of hybridizing lepidoptera, unless it occurs in nature, (for example Hyalophora kasloensis). I suppose it could occur in the wilds of the Neotropics, but we cannot be sure unless someone actually catches a wild hybridized specimen, then to myself this is all man induced, and conjecture. To me they are merely collectibles, and conversation pieces, although beautiful and interesting.
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Post by trehopr1 on May 26, 2018 18:28:05 GMT -8
I too really admire these hybrids; they are stunning. I don't foresee these going down much in price for some time. At least not the GOOD examples... All the rest of the bent shoulder, wing marred, shoddy pinned stuff will still sell off at much reduced prices to those of less discriminating taste. One has to pay the price to have one of the best. Perhaps in time someone will figure out how to achieve more choice examples from their breeding efforts. However, even if this is achieved those in the know will probably only release the "best" examples at a trickle so as to not flood the market and make them worthless.
Jshuey, I am curious what exactly happens now to the Agrias genus? I am not a taxonomists like yourself so I'm just wondering how the nomenclature will play out. Thanks for any input.
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